Ordering Faith versus Fact (i.e., do it now, please)

February 3, 2015 • 11:45 am

A kindly reader emailed me some information that I decided to investigate, to wit:

It would be a good idea to encourage everybody who follows WEIT and who intends to make the purchase not to wait, but to pre-order.

Your readers will help the book gain the attention of many more readers by pre-ordering at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Powell’s, or at an independent bookstore.  All pre-orders count as first-week sales, and the first week’s sales of any book affect its future by determining how many copies bookstores order, whether it appears on recommended lists, and so on.  So these are the best sales to have, because they can boost a book like yours into best-seller territory right away.

I checked with my publisher (Viking/Penguin/Random House) about this, and my editor and others told me not only that the information is correct, but also urged me (translation: demanded) that I put up pre-order information now and keep it on the site. (Pre-ordering links will be the same as ordering links, I suppose, and the book will be available May 19.)

Until I get my web designer to put in permanent links in the upper-right-hand corner, I’ll try to construct a “welcome” page that has the information below. I haven’t yet done this, and am not sure how it works, but it will probably be the page you see when you first click on this website. Do not be frightened when you see it!

As for now, and given the information above, I beseech readers to preorder Faith versus Fact rather than wait until it appears. Look at it this way: if you’ve read this site since the beginning, it’s an investment of less than $4 per year (1¢ per day), and you’ve never seen an ad except this one! Further, by May 19, you’ll have forgotten the expense. (And I’m told that Amazon, at least, doesn’t charge you until the book is shipped.)

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That would be a nice sale. . .

Here are three blurbs from those who have read the galleys:

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The truth is not always half way between two extremes: some propositions are flat wrong. In this timely and important book, Jerry Coyne expertly exposes the incoherence of the increasingly popular belief that you can have it both ways: that God (or something God-ish, God-like, or God-oid) sort-of exists; that miracles kind-of happen; and that the truthiness of dogma is somewhat-a-little-bit-more-or-less-who’s-to-say-it-isn’t like the truths of science and reason.

Steven Pinker, Johnstone Professor of Psychology, Harvard University, and author of The Better Angels of Our Nature


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Many people are confused about science—about what it is, how it is practiced, and why it is the most powerful method for understanding ourselves and the universe that our species has ever devised. In Faith Versus Fact, Coyne has written a wonderful primer on what it means to think scientifically, showing that the honest doubts of science are better—and more noble—than the false certainties of religion. This is a profound and lovely book. It should be required reading at every college on earth.

Sam Harris, author of the New York Times bestsellers The End of Faith, The Moral Landscape, and Waking Up.

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The distinguished geneticist Jerry Coyne trains his formidable intellectual fire power on religious faith, and it’s hard to see how any reasonable person can resist the conclusions of his superbly argued book. Though religion will live on in the minds of the unlettered, in educated circles faith is entering its death throes. Symptomatic of its terminal desperation are the “apophatic” pretensions of “sophisticated theologians”, for whose empty obscurantism Coyne reserves his most devastating sallies. Read this book and recommend it to two friends.

Richard Dawkins

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And here are the direct links for pre-ordering:
Finally—and I mention this in the book—let me thank the numerous readers who have weighed in on the science/religion conflict over the years. Without the ability to work out my ideas by writing on this site, and to get valuable feedback from you, I doubt that this book would have been written.
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211 thoughts on “Ordering Faith versus Fact (i.e., do it now, please)

    1. Same here – by hard copy. (Amazon, I believe)

      I’m curious though, Jerry — is there a “best” strategy for this? Does it matter if the “votes” are spread across various outlets? Or would it be optimal if one site got a relatively huge bunch of orders?

      (I’m partial to Powell’s, actually, but pre-ordered Amazon at the first announcement)

      1. I ordered a hard copy long ago too.

        Although I haven’t done it yet, I was also planning to get it on my Kindle. I was going to wait, but if it’ll help, I’ll get onto to it now!

    2. Wait, you can get it on Kindle? Damn Amazon and its regional locking. As an Australian, the Amazon store only shows a hardcover. FFS!

      1. Go to your Amazon account settings, click “manage your content and devices”, go to the settings tab, and click the “change country” button. You just have to enter any valid US address (use a hotel!) and away you go in the US Kindle Store.

        1. Marbella,

          That doesn’t quite work. To have an American account you also need a valid American credit card to pay for your purchases. What you need is two accounts – an Australian and an American with an assumed American address. Then you give yourself a gift card from your Australian to your American account, and then any purchases on your American account (once you apply the gift card, which can be sent by email) are paid first from any credit balance first.

          You also need a second email address too. Just as long as it’s not the same one.

          1. Marella,

            Damn spellcheck. Anyway, as an Australian, I’ve got it on order on my American account. Amazon is a little annoying in that you can change the registered account on the Kindle, and retain purchased content, but can’t do the same with the superior App on the iPad (changing the account automatically deletes all downloaded content in the Kindle App). So I have two iPads, one for each account.

          2. Something to do with publishers and who has the rights to sell books where. It’s antiquated in a global environment and a total PITA for consumers.

          3. Publishing rights.

            One of the annoying things about Australia is that our publishers still act as if Australia is an island in the middle of nowhere. So not only do we have a smaller range, we pay a premium for it. The digital era is worse because we now know just how badly we are being screwed without being able to do much about it in a legal way. It really sucks.

    3. Yes I preordered on Kindle too. Knowing my habits, I will probably end up buying various different copies in different media. I did that with Steven Pinker’s Better Angels book.

      1. Well, if you do really know that, you should get them right now.

        Or are you just waiting to see if it’s any good? 😀

        (I’m joking, of course!)

    4. There’s no Kindle option in the UK Amazon store. Is there any way to get them to make a Kindle edition available?

      1. The iTunes link works. The other links take me to a webpage that looks like the access page for email at the University of Chicago.

      2. The links take you to a University of Chicago logon screen, so presumably they work if you are already logged on to the U of C, but not for us mere mortals.

  1. It is preordered since some weeks already – but here in Switzerland, it will not arrive before end of June 🙁

    1. Alright… if Jerry Coyne twists my arm like that. 😉
      Pre-ordered, but from amazon.de, because of free shipping to Switzerland.

    1. Where have you pre-ordered the eBook version Richard?

      I can’t see a Kindle version available at Amazon .UK or .Com

      Nor an option on Amazon to request Viking to make an eBook version available.

      1. Slight correction. On the Amazon.uk page for this book I’ve found a link far down on the right which allowed me to request that the publisher make a Kindle version available. This leads me to believe that I can’t pre-order a Kindle version in the UK at least.

      2. I have the same problem in Australia – the only book that shows up on AmazonDOTcom is the hardcover version.

        I’ve had the same problem with other books, I had to wait months for Rebecca Goldstein’s Plato At The Googleplex to have a Kindle version though it seemed to exist for Americans long before then.

  2. This is very good information and I would add, Pre Ordering does not mean you are paying ahead of time. At least on Amazon, they do not charge you until shipped.

    Adopt a Book for the Library as well.

  3. I *thought* I had pre-ordered this some time ago, but according to Amazon, I haven’t. My bad, but fixed.

    Sorry Professor Ceiling Cat!

  4. Just to add, how can Jerry not be chuffed by the blurbs of two Horsmen and a Horseman-in-Caliber! Obviously Pinkah and Dawkins are heavyweights whose opinion should count for a lot – but Harris is someone who chooses his words very carefully and always means exactly what he says: if he says the book is “lovely,” then I expect the Albatross is going to be an even better read than I had imagined. Really excited for May now!

    1. Little bits of content have been implied here and there. From this web site, and now from the reviewers. I was recently going over the WEIT book, and I still marvel at how nicely our host puts things.
      This is gonna be good. Endorsements like these make the case clear.

  5. “…the honest doubts of science are better—and more noble—than the false certainties of religion.” This should be on the cover of the Albatross!

  6. Preordered the hard-copy for starters.
    I might get the Kindle version later, for mobile convenience.
    Great idea starting promoting your book here, and early.
    It’s your work, rather than advertising!

  7. Links don’t work. They take you to some University of Chicago “Beware of Phishing Emails” page with a “log in” prompt and username/password fields. You probably can’t see them because you have a log in.

  8. The link for Amazon is redirecting to a login page for the University of Chicago. Same goes for the others that are trying to redirect through it.

  9. pre-ordered! this is a really convenient way to support the site and all your work. WEIT is my go to commute. Thank you.

  10. At my age and overall state of health, I could very well be dead before it arrives. Oh well, I preordered it anyway. Does that mean I acted on faith?

    1. On good faith, yes. Sorry to hear about the health/age concerns.

      If it helps any, if I don’t hear from you around May, I will try to hold a séance and we’ll all try to read it to you. We’ll make it a scientific séance. (a quantum séance, widely reported in the literature to be quite effective)

  11. I can’t seem to use any of the links for pre-ordering your book, as I do not have a user name and password in the University of Chicago system. I am emeritus from the University of Iowa and now teaching one course formerly called historical geology in the Earth & Planetary Sciences dept. at Northwestern.
    Gil Klapper

  12. OK, OK, Mom. I did it. Is this the “albatross” or is that another book? I’m easily confused. Do I have hat on?

    My brain is being ravished by Jaques Barzun at the moment I’m all a dither.

      1. You know this makes you The Ancient Mariner so you’ll have to travel around telling this story, especially at weddings.

        1. Ben and GB: I’m writin’ this shit down. I was not aware of this. I need to do this as well.

          (I generally ignore all advertising, even the kind I might actually be interested in. Sigh.)

  13. Done..and if anyone needs another reason why everyone should by this book check out the BBC website reports covering the vote in GB Parliament for scientific sense against the religious nonsense of three parent families.

  14. You’re cheating professor! These are all your friends. Let’s see some W. L. Craig, D. Chopra, or T. Ramadan. Or how one creationist debated R. Dawkins: let’s see the other side.

    1. No the good doctor is behind the curve – spent way too much time looking at lovely pornographic sculpture in India among other things. 😇

  15. This is exciting. I am very much looking forward to reading this book.

    I want desperately for some of my nephews and nieces to read it due to their horrid catholic indoctrination and upbringing. I must be careful, though, which is ironic as one of the indoctrinators routinely sends catholic essays, histories, etc. to members of her family. It is quite upsetting, but no one in our family, other than myself, is willing to confront her on the topic of religion. She’s loud, opinionated, and quite knowledgeable on the various topics that directly and indirectly deal with science and religion. This scares everyone off, I’m afraid to say.

    BTW, I pre-ordered “Faith vs Fact” (or as I call it in my mind, “Bullshit vs The Obvious”) on January 11. My version is Kindle, so, just like the new release of new DVDs on Tuesdays, I can access it immediately when release day comes! CAN’T WAIT!

  16. Thanks for the reminder, and the tip on the sales! Have ordered the book and look forward to reading it. Have enjoyed your posts and the discussions.

  17. I’ve been wanting to pre-order this but it doesn’t seem to be possible to pre-order the Kindle version in the UK yet.

  18. Great blurbs but the usual suspects. Your publisher should want someone else blurbing too. I recommend a preacher condemning to hell all who read the thing, or at least JAC himself. A “Horrible, horrible” from Deepakity would be nice.

    1. That suggestion reminds me of Banksy’s book ‘Wall and Piece’ which carries on the back cover: “No way are you going to get a quote from us to use on your book cover” – Metropolitan Police spokesperson.

  19. I was just wondering if it’s possible to see a Table of Contents (not sure how to phrase that so it doesn’t sound like a demand)? Or will amazon have a preview when it’s out?

  20. Hi Jerry,

    I was unable to order it in Ireland (through either iTunes or Amazon). I’ve ordered it to a UK address though where I’ll be able to collect it … can’t wait to read it! Just thought I’d mention this in case you miss out on some other Irish pre-orders.

    John.

  21. Those are awesome blurbs! Any chance you can get the three of them to flog pre-sales of your book amongst their own audiences?

    Also, Jerry, correct me if I’m worng…but, I do believe you’ll be happy to sign and forward any books we all order and have shipped to your University of Chicago address, correct?

    Cheers,

    b&

    1. Well, if the readers also send me enough postage for me to return the book to them, yes, I’ll sign it and send it on (but no drawings of cats!). Do remember that overseas postage is pretty expensive–often close to the price of the book.

      1. Jerry, you should be able to designate a favorite bookstore in Chicago where buyers may pre-order copies that you will then inscribe for them at the store before the books are shipped. No need for you to be mailing books.

  22. The book is not available on kindle in the UK. I’ve pressed the ‘I want to read this on Kindle’ button, so if more people do that maybe it will help. Or is it possible for you to request a UK Kindle release, Professor?
    Would be greatly appreciated.

  23. I was going to wait, for no particular reason, until the book was in stores. But I will pre-order at least one copy as soon as I can find what I’ve done with my Amazon sign in info.

    Excellent blurbs. I’m really looking forward to reading this book. I would like to send a copy to my mother. She is an amazing person and I love her as only a child can love their mother, but I don’t think she would appreciate it.

  24. I’ve ordered my hard copy from Amazon. I’m hoping we can send it postage paid both ways to Chicago for the obligatory autograph and perhaps a cat or, probably not, d*g.

  25. Jerry: Pre-ordered the first time you noted that it was up on Amazon for Pre-order. And I ordered the HB, which I now (with retirement beginning to dawn over the horizon) only do for very special books. 🙂

      1. Benedict Cumberbatch would be a good voice choice. Though I don’t have any idea what his views on these issues are.

  26. Don’t forget to feed your local bookstore.
    With one purchase you can help Professor Ceiling Cat and local culture

  27. I’ve now ordered two copies, one from Amazon and one from Annie Bloom’s, my local and beloved independent book store in Portland, OR. Portland is also home to Powell’s Books, which is a truly wonderful haven for bibliophiles of all persuasions.

    1. There’s one in Jerry’s neighborhood of Hyde Park too. As a broke postdoc, my wife, daughter and I spent many afternoons browsing the bookstores of Hyde Park. I hope they’re still there.

  28. Done. I must admit to being slightly disappointed that there’s no picture of an Albatross on the cover…

  29. Pre-ordered. Probably the best investment I’ve made for some time. Especially if it helps keep WEIT up and running. I’m sure that I speak for the silent majority in thanking you Jerry for all the time and effort you put in to your site.

  30. Ben–it should be possible for you to pre-order from a store in Chicago that Jerry might designate. Then he can visit the store and inscribe copies for those who have asked for signed ones, and the store will ship them out.

  31. I got mine. I also would love the audio book. If it is not too much I love Dr. Coyne’s voice but it may be to much time.

    1. I buy several audio books per month and they are almost always read by professional actors. The one exception I recall is one of the “Great Courses” by Bart Ehrman, and he had so many “uhs” that it about drove me nuts. Having Jerry read his own book would be a big mistake.

  32. Already pre-ordered a few months ago, but I’m thinking about getting another copy or two, especially if…

    Do you plan on doing a book tour at all or anything promotional? If not a full blown tour, perhaps a store or two around Chicago or maybe even at the University book store?

    I don’t doubt you’ll keep us updated about any plans for that sort of thing. Or if there are no plans, it could be something to think about. It’s a win/win for everyone as many of us would greatly enjoy that sort of thing and you’re only up to sell more copies!

  33. For Canadians, fortunately the Kindle version can be pre-ordered from Amazon.ca as well. I’m glad this is the case, because we often miss out on those (this being a country dominated by the inferior Kobo) It’s a lot cheaper to get it from Amazon.ca than .com because of the weakness of the Canadian dollar, which is only worth about $.80 these days.

  34. I ordered two
    one for me and
    one I’m going to send to Deepok Chopra .
    (he may need a pop up version with lots of pictures)

  35. Done and done. And I just started reading my new copy of WEIT during jury duty last week, and it is very good!

  36. I did not pre-order on purpose. I wait until it is out and then order 4-5 copies (I will give some copies to friends) in my local book shop. When my local book shop gets such an order (4-5 copies), they tend to stock more of them, in the ‘science’ section, of course, where 4-5 copies equates (sadly) to a best-seller.
    I’m really looking forward. Why is ‘Faith versus Fact’ referred to as ‘The Albatross’? Or am I mixed up there?

  37. I wanted to pre-order Faith versus Fact today from Amazon, but some bum “compromised” my credit card number and is having a nice spending spree in another country. I’ll have to wait for a new card to pre-order on line.

    I blame it all on religion.

  38. Done (through amazon). And I’ll be giving a copy to my brother as well. Thanks Jerry for your hard work and inspiration.

  39. Jerry, if the title of the book is to be Faith v Fact shouldn’t the two words ally with “Science v Religion”?

    As currently presented, it looks like Science ties to Religion and Religion to Fact.

    1. That’s been talked about before here. I think it’s perfectly clear just the way it is, and that it reads more smoothly this way as well.

      Doesn’t hurt that the word “science” follows and right on the heels of “fact,” either.

      1. Yes, it’s actually a Classical device (via Wiktionary): Simon R. Slings, “Figures of Speech in Aristophanes”, in Andreas Willi (editor), The Language of Greek Comedy, pages 103-104

        Leeman therefore holds that chiasmus is the basic order in Greek and Latin: antithesis is, he claims, normal for the modern, rational mind, but for the Greeks and Romans chiasmus was more natural.

        It’s something that Steven Pinker advocates, too, in his discussion of appropriate use of the passive voice, that the writer should keep the reader’s attention on the last idea introduced.

        Think of it as a sweeping spotlight:

        Faith → → → Fact
        Religion ← Science ↩

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  40. I had put off ordering because I couldn’t decide whether I wanted a Kindle or hardback. Although I love Kindle books for the convenience, people never can tell what you’re reading and you miss a good opportunity for a conversation.

    Under pressure, I went ahead and ordered the hardback. I wish they’d make an ebook where the screen wrapped around the entire device, so it could display a “cover”.

  41. There’s been a few comments that if you have Australian or British accounts on Amazon, there’s no Kindle edition available for pre-order.

    Two suggestions. 1. Add to Wishlist and check closer to the release date (May is a long way off and a Kindle edition may be available by then), or if you can’t wait, and are very impatient 2. Open a separate American account with an American address (1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is a good one) and a different email address and give yourself a gift card from your non-American account to your American account, and purchases are debited against any credit balance. Not recommended if you read books on an iPad though – changing accounts automatically deletes downloaded books. OK on Kindles.

    1. The usual practice with a title in UK etiquette at least is to insert a greater title after the lesser title so the physicist John Polkingthorne is the Reverend Dr John Polkingthorne, KBE, FRS, & the chemist (& imho great bloke!) David King is Professor Sir David King FRS, HonFREng. Jerry would be perhaps Professor Distinguished Ceiling Cat Jerry A. Coyne, etc etc!

  42. Done, via B&N – pennies more than Amazon but their free ship threshold is $10 less, & so added another title in the photography category for little more than the S/H would have been.

  43. Done!

    Best pre-order price I found (from the UK) was ‘Wordery’, which was cheaper than Amazon in fact, which is nice.

  44. Done. Congratulations on already achieving #1 bestseller status in “science and religion” on the German Amazon site.

  45. I want to buy the book, but I usually buy books for Kindle.
    Does ordering Faith versus Fact in Kindle edition achieves the same goal that is helps the future of the book?
    Since Kindle is only available at Amazon, I’m not sure that pre-ordering the book in Kindle version will actually achieve this same goal.

    Thanks

  46. You said, ” Without the ability to work out my ideas by writing on this site, and to get valuable feedback from you, I doubt that this book would have been written.”

    I was just thinking sometime ago how it must be difficult, wanting to spend more time on biology and evolution and such, but to constantly have to beat back the bad ideas. In Richard Dawkins, “Greatest Show on Earth”, the opening chapter begins with being a hypothetical teacher of ancient Rome. And now imagine having to constantly push back against fools who want to undermine your work and convince others the Romans never existed.

    Must be very frustrating to waste resources. Perhaps in a few hundred years, our ancestors will review our archives and wonder why we spent so much time battling ghosts and goblins.

  47. If consciousness doesn’t *do* anything, then there is no *evidence* for it. If reductionism/determinism is true, then to view your fellow humans as conscious aka having “minds” is a form of unscientific faith.

    No?

      1. How about seeing stones, or storms, or volcanoes as having minds? What specific measurements have been performed on humans to conclude they have “minds” ? Do you believe in reductionism / determinism (+quantum randomness if you like)? If a quark doesn’t have a conscious mind, and a molecule and so on to an individual neuron, and a thing is the sum of its parts, what empirical problem does a theory of “mind” solve? Thank you.

        1. You know, the state of knowledge has improved in the millennia since Zeno.

          Place a grain of sand on a table. Add another. And another. And keep adding grains, one at a time.

          At what point do you no longer have a collection of a few grains of sand, and instead have a pile of sand?

          Where is the pile in the single grain?

          Until you can convince me that there is no pile of sand because it’s just a bunch of grains, I’m not going to be impressed with naïve reductionist objections to consciousness such as the one you raise — and I rather doubt Darrelle nor anybody else here will be, either.

          b&

          1. Pile is a word people use. Grain is word people use. There is never a point that X# of grains become a pile. This whole example takes place at an extremely *casual* level of analysis.

            If one person insisted that the a volcano, by rumbling, was consciously demanding a virgin sacrifice, and 2nd person brought in geologists to point out that all of the volcano’s behaviors could be explained using simple physics, would you scoff? referring to the geologist’s explanation as amounting to a “naive reductionist objection” to volcano consciousness? why or why not?

          2. You’ve got the most bizarre definition of, “consciousness,” if you think it’s a property that volcanoes possess. Perhaps you should back up and clarify what it is you think you mean by the word…?

            b&

    1. I saw that too, but when I clicked it, the #1 actually was a book by CS Lewis, and Jerry’s was in 2nd. Sam Harris’s Waking up was in third.
      It surprised me to see Bill Nye’s latest book about evolution ranked in that same list, as “religious studies”.

      1. Well, FVF certain studies religion … and finds it wanting.

        This listing is a good thing; it can be found by folks who wouldn’t be looking for books on science or atheism.

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