Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ “post-truth”

Today’s Jesus and Mo strip, called “tribe”, (which makes a point similar to that discussed by Steve Pinker in his recent Skeptic article), came with an emailed explanation

Today’s comic is inspired by a Jonathan Freedland article from April this year.

And that Guardian article is about how critics of James Comey’s recently-published memoirs are denigrating palpably true statements in his book—part of a general refusal to face the facts.  And of course the purveyors of Abrahamic religion, the epitome of “false facts”, take issue:

26 Comments

  1. ThyroidPlanet
    Posted November 6, 2019 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Well, CLEARLY the point made by the comic is far less important than it really is!

  2. MP
    Posted November 6, 2019 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Well, England did win the cricket world cup, although based on some bizarre rules. So the fake sport news section is fake.

    • TJR
      Posted November 6, 2019 at 11:30 am | Permalink

      Beat me to it.

      All Hail Sir Ben!

    • Posted November 6, 2019 at 11:59 am | Permalink

      They lost the only world cup that matters: rugby! And they were poor losers, refusing to wear their silver medals. A bit of an insult to their former captain, Sir Bill Beaumont, who presented them. A show of petulance worthy of Trump.

      Well done to the winners, South Africa, who have come a long way since apartheid, being captained this year by a black (or whatever is the correct term today for a native of South Africa).

      • TJR
        Posted November 6, 2019 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

        Rugby *Union*.

        The World Cup for proper Rugby (League) is held by Australia.

      • Nicolaas Stempels
        Posted November 6, 2019 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

        Siya Kolosi is indeed an outstanding captain.
        He already showed his captaincy skills while captaining the Stormers/Western Cape. Coach Rassie Erasmus chose him for good reasons, but got quite some flak for sticking with Kolisi. The two (and the team) showed brilliantly how wrong the critics were.
        If I’m allowed to elaborate a bit:
        The Bokke were dominant from the word go, especially in the scrums the English Roses were nowhere, conceding penalty after penalty. The scrum headed by forwards loose prop Tawarira, hooker Mbonambi and thighthead prop Malherbe were royally dominant, despite the pack weighing 20 kg less. Their replacements, Kitshoff, Marx and Koch were no less impressive -and as effective.
        After about 30 minutes, the English had a great attack, phase after phase close to or even on the tryline. In the end it only resulted in a penalty kick (3 points), due to great SA defense.
        At that moment I knew the Bokke would win.
        The try by Mapimpi was very clever, and helped with a good bounce for Am, but fully deserved.
        Cheslin Kolbe’s try, dealing the English their definitive death blow, was of typical ‘diminutive’ Kolbe brilliance, he basically defeated 5 defenders in one run.
        I can hardly believe this mediocre English team was the same that beat the Almighty All Blacks in the semi’s. They were outplayed on about all aspects of the game in the final.
        So Yes, the Bokke are fully deserved world Champions.
        I advise anybody even remotely interested in Rugby to review the whole match (which I’m going to do right now).

        • Posted November 6, 2019 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

          I wondered if they (England) could sustain the effort they put in against us (NZ) in the final (SA) Turns out as we saw, the AB match was their final. A grand effort but a bridge to far… and an appalling display of sportmanship by England to top it off.

          • Posted November 7, 2019 at 4:46 am | Permalink

            Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.

            I really don’t understand why being a bit grumpy after losing a really important match is so often subject to criticism.

            • Posted November 7, 2019 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

              When you lose badly like the English did, like spit the dummy badly, “we” take it upon ourselves to dump on the loser harder, then we all go home, to do it another day.

              • Posted November 7, 2019 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

                You’ve clearly never been in the situation of being that close to achieving something amazing only to have it slip through your fingers because of your own shortcomings. Lucky you. I can tell you it bloody hurts and if any runners up in any world championship want to sulk about it, it’s fine by me.

              • Posted November 7, 2019 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

                That’s fine by me, sulk away… but I dont see how that is clearly anything to do with me, If you lose and sulk in front of the rugby world your gonna get bagged for it…

              • Posted November 7, 2019 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

                Who’s sulking?

              • Posted November 8, 2019 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

                The England rugby by team apparently, I thought they did well, oh well, nevermind….

        • Jonathan Wallace
          Posted November 7, 2019 at 6:43 am | Permalink

          I don’t think the England side were necessarily mediocre in the final though at the start they made a lot of strange, unforced errors. The South Africans executed their game plan exceptionally well and did not allow the England team to play to its strengths. It was a very well deserved victory to SA.

          As an England supporter it was of course disappointing that the match went the way it did (especially after the exhilarating victory over the All Blacks left them as favourites to win the final) but England can have no complaints – South Africa fully deserved their victory and the right to call themselves World Champions.

          For all the disappointment, England should be able to look back with some satisfaction on the tournament – especially when compared to the ignominy of being dumped out of the tournament at the group stage when it was played on their own turf four years ago.

          The other ‘winners’ in this Tournament were the Japanese. The tournament was evidently a great success, enjoyed by local and visitors alike and the home team punched well above their weight playing an exciting style of rugby that won friends around the rugby world.

      • MP
        Posted November 6, 2019 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

        I thought that it was the football world cup that mattered the most to the English

      • Dominic
        Posted November 7, 2019 at 4:26 am | Permalink

        http://etwa.org/tournaments.html
        That is a proper game!
        🙂

      • Posted November 7, 2019 at 4:42 am | Permalink

        The Cricket World Cup was more important. We’ve won the Rugby World Cup before, but never the Cricket World Cup. That little factoid ws becoming a bit of a millstone.

        As for not wearing their silver medals, maybe they didn’t think they were worthy. After all England was never really in the game.

  3. helenahankart
    Posted November 6, 2019 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Thats exactly the sort of thing I’d expect a cis-gendered staright, white, online comic to say.

    • ThyroidPlanet
      Posted November 7, 2019 at 5:38 am | Permalink

      High five!

  4. Ken Kukec
    Posted November 6, 2019 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    … how critics of James Comey’s recently-published memoirs are denigrating palpably true statements in his book …

    Jim Comey screwed the pooch in the Hillary Clinton investigation — especially as to his reopening the investigation because of the emails found on Anthony Weiner’s dick-pic laptop, and sending a letter to congress about it 11 days before the presidential election — but I’ve never questioned the integrity of Comey’s motivations. He, and the US Department of Justice, were put in a hell of a predicament by Bubba Clinton’s
    barging into AG Loretta Lynch’s airplane on PHX tarmac in June 2016.

    Comey’s last-minute letter in all likelihood cost Hillary the election. But James Comey doesn’t have a lie in him.

    • BJ
      Posted November 6, 2019 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

      The first time a dick-pic may have seriously affected global affairs, and likely far from the last, considering the generations that will be entering politics in the next few decades.

      I’m proud to say I’ve never taken a dick-pic. Perhaps I should run for office.

    • BJ
      Posted November 6, 2019 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

      Of course, it won’t just be dick-pics. We already have Congresswomen posting pictures of themselves nude with their staffers to cuckold message boards.

      What a time to be alive. It brings to mind that old Chinese proverb…

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted November 6, 2019 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

        I’m reluctant to put you onto any genre flicks, BJ, given how you panned Midsommar :), but you might wanna give The Lighthouse a try. I double guarantee you that it’s unlike anything else you’ll see this year, or maybe ever. In its visual style, for sure — shot in high-contrast B&W, like something out of Fritz Lang or FW Murnau, and an old-fashioned aspect ratio (that I think must be about 6:5, but looks almost square on the screen), and a pair of scenery-chewing performances out of its only two speaking parts — by Willem Defoe and the young English actor Robert Pattinson.

        I’ll say no more.

      • Steve Pollard
        Posted November 6, 2019 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

        I hardly dare ask what you mean by ‘their staffers’…

      • Posted November 7, 2019 at 4:55 am | Permalink

        Which Congresswomen have done that?

  5. John Abbott
    Posted November 28, 2019 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    I would be skeptical of Comey. The whole episode does not make a lot of sense.


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