Vile anti-Semitism among Belgian soccer fans

If you’re one of those who think that anti-Zionism is never anti-Semitism, and that most of the opprobrium directed at Jews is about the government of Israel, not about their being Jews, then read this article from the Times of Israel (click on screenshot) and watch the video below, which is embedded in the article. What we see are a bunch of Belgian soccer fans gleefully calling for the burning of Jews. They mention nothing about Palestine, the “apartheid state” and so on. This is Jew hatred, pure and simple, and it’s becoming more frequent in Europe and the U.S.

An excerpt from the article:

Soccer fans in Belgium chanted about burning Jews during a match in the city of Bruges, Belgian media reported.

La Derniere Heure published footage from the August 26 match on Wednesday. It shows dozens of fans celebrating their local team’s victory over Brussels’ Anderlecht team that day by singing in Flemish: “My father was in the commandos, my mother was in the SS, together they burned Jews ’cause Jews burn the best.”

The chant, whose use was first reported by the media in 2015, has proliferated in the Netherlands and Belgium in recent years. In some cases, fans chant it to taunt counterparts from rival teams that are seen as historically Jewish. Some fans say Anderlecht is such a team, although that soccer club is not famously associated with Jews.

Here’s a screenshot of the video, and note that it’s not just one or a few fans, but a whole herd of them. For some reason I can’t post a YouTube link, but you can see the video on the Times site. It’s pretty horrifying; I can’t imagine these people didn’t realize what they were chanting about.  And if you’re going to say, “Well, they didn’t mean it: this was just the usual raillery of soccer fans,” don’t bother.

The paper does report that the Brugges soccer club has strongly condemned this behavior and banned several fans from the stadium, but remember, this sentiment is still there among the people in this crowd, most of which weren’t banned.

These incidents are becoming increasingly frequent; here’s one published two days ago by Haaretz:

An excerpt:

The woman, aged 20, said in her complaint to police that the incident happened Monday in the heavily Jewish suburb of Sarcelles north of Paris, the National Bureau for Vigilance Against Anti-Semitism, or BNVCA, wrote in a statement Tuesday.

Prying her cellphone out of her hands, the two assailants, whom she said were black, hit her face while saying: “Are you afraid, you Jewess?” she told police. A passerby intervened, allowing the woman to flee to her home with a broken nose and bloody face, the report said. She was on her way home from work, she also said. The two alleged assailants fled the scene. BNVCA called on police to investigate and apprehend the suspects.

France has seen an increase of 69 percent in the number of anti-Semitic incidents in the first 10 months of 2018 over the corresponding period last year, Prime Minister Edouard Philippe said last month.

In addition to anti-Semitic assaults motivated purely by hate, French Jews have reported an increase in the number of incidents also featuring robbery. Some of the victims were selected because they are Jewish, while others began as random criminal acts before escalating into violent assaults after the perpetrators discovered the Jewish identity of their victims.

When I was in France not long ago, I noticed an increased amount of security around synagogues and in the partly Jewish Marais area.

This is not about Palestine versus Israel; this is about increasing hatred of Jews simply because they are Jews. It’s time to admit what is obvious.



  1. GBJames
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 10:33 am | Permalink


  2. Malgorzata
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 10:34 am | Permalink


  3. Ken Kukec
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    In the words of Colin Farrell, “fookin’ Bruges!”

  4. Randall Schenck
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    It may be time to consider which is truly going to shit faster – The U.S. or Europe. I think Putin is getting exactly what he wants and it is much easier than bombs and soldiers. In France they don’t even seem to need any leadership to riot and destroy property. Is it all decided on line? Is that where they get the orders?

    We are not far behind here. Having a corrupt bigoted thug in the white house should help us get there faster. Shut the government down today and build that fantasy wall. We will all live and die by twitter.

  5. Jon Gallant
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    We can look forward to the doyennes of the Women’s March explaining that the assailants of the Jewish woman in Paris, being black, are incapable of racism. And Glenn Greenwald will lecture us on the way Zionists always cry “anti-semitism” about anti-semitism.

  6. Posted December 21, 2018 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    As an ardent football fan, I condemn the reprehensible conduct of these hooligans.

  7. Posted December 21, 2018 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Intolerance fuelled by ignorence, a bottomless pit.

  8. Jenny Haniver
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    Anti-semitism in the US isn’t limited to the Proud Boys rabble-rousers, run-of-the-mill white supremacists, and those of their ilk. Just a few days ago, a furor erupted (and is ongoing) over an interview Alice Walker gave to the NY Times, in which she was asked what books were on her night table, and she spoke of having David Icke’s “And the Truth Shall Set You Free.” She is a long-time, slavish devotee of Icke (I’ve noted this in other posts), a general crackpot and an anti-Semite of the first water, promulgating the belief that Jews are really bloodthirsty reptilian aliens, and the Holocaust (though Icke questions that) was instigated by the Jews for publicity and control. Several years ago, her championing of Icke and her general anti-Semitism also created a furor, which seems to have been forgotten since in the age of the Internet and social media, memory is very short. Walker’s visceral anti-Semitism did not originate in her championing of Palestinian rights; it pre-dated it; though she denies that she’s an anti-Semite and blames being saddled with that label on the fact that she supports BDS, which is bunkum.

    It’s appalling that she’s resurrected this; and her defense of her beliefs and of Icke is vomit-inducing: “To the Also Curious” (scroll down to just below the photo of the little girl reading a book).

    Here’s a recent poem of hers: “It is Our (Frightful) Duty to Study the Talmud”, in which she speaks of the “shock” she experienced when she was accused “of appearing to be anti-Semitic.” I recently read Deborah Lipstadt’s monumental book, “Denying the Holocaust” and consider it a must-read for everyone.

    • Posted December 21, 2018 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

      I was going to write about this and have been collecting links, but maybe now I don’t have to. But of course the liberal media will largely ignore this story, though the NYT has stated that they don’t vet books recommended by authors they interview, thereby exculpating themselves. But they really should report on this controversy now.

      I had no idea that Walker was such an anti-Semite, but she will be given a pass because she’s black and a famous author.

    • David Coxill
      Posted December 21, 2018 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

      I don’t follow sport ,but i saw a bit on the news about Anti-Jewish feelings among the low brows who support Chelsea FC ,the fact that the club owner is Jewish seems to have escaped them.

  9. Kevin
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    “This is not about Palestine versus Israel;”
    Exactly: that would involve an anti-Zionist element: Zionism is essentially a political position. Prejudice against race or religion is a different beast.

    “This is about increasing hatred of Jews simply because they are Jews. It’s time to admit what is obvious.”
    I agree.
    I think there IS an increase in ant-Semitism across Europe. Racism also.
    There is also an increase in xenophobia of ALL types, anti-immigrant feeling (presumed to have partly expressed itself in the Brexit referendum for example) and there seems to be an even more evident increase in anti-Islamic/Muslim feeling.
    There is also a swing towards the political right wing across Europe, including various expressions of Nationalism, Nazism and Fascism.

    I doubt that many of the participants filmed in Belgium even know what Zionism is. They likely hate any race apart from their own, or even any other football team. Base level tribalism.

    Recent news:
    My father has been a keen Arsenal supporter since about 1935. He won’t be too pleased about this one at all. “It’s not playing the game, you know”.

  10. CAS
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Where does this antisemitism come from? Children are indoctrinated with this evil garbage using the holy books of Christianity and Islam.

    • alexander
      Posted December 21, 2018 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

      I agree with you there.

      • Posted December 21, 2018 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

        Perhaps true in some cases. But isn’t the USA always considered to be The Christian nation? And the biggest supporter of the state of Israel? I’m a New Zealand Evangelical scientist (PhD) and strongly pro-Jewish, yet many of my atheist and agnostic family members are quite the opposite. So yes, and no.

    • Diana MacPherson
      Posted December 21, 2018 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

      Yeah, I’ve always found anti-semitism so strange and perhaps that’s because I wasn’t raised religiously. I’ve found whenever I’ve encountered (usually passive) antisemitism – the kind that is uttered in passing like “the US supports Israel because there are so many Jews in power in the US” (the conspiracy theory that Jews run the world), there is a Christian element – either the person was raised Christian or has Christian friends they heard stuff like this from.

    • Posted December 21, 2018 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

      Where does it come from? Demonic / self loathing / a left media who continually bash Israel / the soft headed liberals who think they are rooting for the underdog persecuted Palestinians LOL / ……. Take your pick oR suggest something else? It is certainly NOT the New Testament which was written almost entirely by Jews.

      • Greg H
        Posted December 21, 2018 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

        I have to disagree. The New Testament has some nasty comments about the Jews. Read the Gospel of John. Anyway, regardless of the original intent of the authors, it has been interpreted in an antisemitic way by Christians for much of the last 2000 years. Anyone who disagrees with that hasn’t read the New Testament.

        • Posted December 21, 2018 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

          Okay, you made the claim, how about providing the evidence to back it up?

          • Greg H
            Posted December 21, 2018 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

            I’m not sure what you’re challenging, whether the NT has anti-semitic passages, or whether historic Christianity has interpreted the material in an anti-semitic way.

            Matthew 27:25 and John 8:44 come to mind regarding the former.

            And the inquisition and the writings of the early church fathers clearly demonstrate the latter. Maybe you’ll want to pull a Pope Francis though and say all those folks weren’t really true Christians.

            • Posted December 22, 2018 at 12:34 am | Permalink

              Matthew 27:24–26 (CSB): 24 When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that a riot was starting instead, he took some water, washed his hands in front of the crowd, and said, “I am innocent of this man’s blood. See to it yourselves!”
              25 All the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!” 26 Then he released Barabbas to them and, after having Jesus flogged, handed him over to be crucified.

              So, here the Jews are calling for Jesus to be crucified, Pilate disagrees with the Jews, so washes his hands of the whole affair, and the Jews say that they will take responsibility for the crucifixion. Hardly sports anti semitism.

              • Greg H
                Posted December 22, 2018 at 12:47 am | Permalink

                If the text is recording literal history, exactly as it happened, then I would agree with you. In that case, the author of Matthew would simply be recording what the Jews themselves said.

                Unfortunately, though, we don’t know exactly when the gospels were written and to what extent the church may have edited the early oral or textual tradition to align with the undeniable anti-semitism that was already developing in the infant church. A simple perusal through the writings of many of the early church fathers will make this abundantly clear.

              • Posted December 22, 2018 at 12:57 am | Permalink

                We know a lot about the gospels and know they were written very early. These texts were spread quickly and widely, so later editing as you suggest would have been very difficult, and against the character and values of those organising the texts. Of course, it is easy to throw these skeptical comments out there, and they are difficult to refute without significant effort, just as it is very difficult to persuade someone who believes Jews were responsible to downing the twin towers.

            • Posted December 22, 2018 at 12:39 am | Permalink

              And ditto for John 8…

              John 8:42–45 (CSB): 42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, because I came from God and I am here. For I didn’t come on my own, but he sent me. 43 Why don’t you understand what I say? Because you cannot listen to my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he speaks from his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me.

              So Jesus specifically confronts the religious leaders of his time, and passed judgment upon them. Hard to see how a Jew addressing the Jewish leadership of that time leads to anti semitism.

              Try again.

              I’ll see if I can find the New Testament text where Paul speaks of his feelings toward his Jewish unbelieving brothers and enemies.

            • Posted December 22, 2018 at 12:47 am | Permalink

              Okay, try Paul’s letter to the Roman church, chapter 9…

              Romans 9:1–5 (CSB): I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying; my conscience testifies to me through the Holy Spirit—2 that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the benefit of my brothers and sisters, my own flesh and blood. 4 They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the temple service, and the promises. 5 The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent, came the Christ, who is God over all, praised forever., Amen.

              Look at verse 3. Paul so desperately loved his fellow Jews that he wished himself cut off for their sakes.

              That is, or should be, the Christian attitude toward Paul’s countrymen.

              • Greg H
                Posted December 22, 2018 at 12:51 am | Permalink

                That’s good of you to take that approach towards the Jewish people. Unfortunately, many Christians throughout history have not interpreted Christian Scripture in such a benign way.

              • Posted December 22, 2018 at 12:59 am | Permalink

                Yes, and shame upon them. There are certainly “christian” anti Semites e.g. British Anglican Stephen Sizer. As I said : shame upon them.

    • Kevin
      Posted December 21, 2018 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

      holy books of Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
      They all share the Old Testament.

      Is the following ant-Semitic?

      “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

      • Greg H
        Posted December 21, 2018 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

        Don’t, you’re going to hurt God’s feeling.

        But seriously, some would say the comment is anti-semitic because it’s attacking the God who the ancient Hebrews describe in their literature, which, in turn, one may argue is a reflection of them as a people. I’ve actually heard some rabbis make this claim.

        I wouldn’t go that route myself. I simply see it as anti-Bronze Age morality, and leave it at that.

        • Kevin
          Posted December 21, 2018 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

          I am sure that Dawkins was describing his impression of the God of the Old Testament.

          However since the text was written by ancient Hebrews and was the cornerstone of their culture and religion, the rabbis are in a sense correct. The text, including the God therein that they describe, IS a reflection of them as a people at the time: they wrote it!

          If Dawkins’ comment were made in some Islamic countries or perhaps in a French cartoon, the speaker would not survive.

          If said in most Christian countries, it would probably be pretty much ignored apart from perhaps some verbage.

          In a Jewish culture, the comment is open to accusations of anti-Semitism:

          In passing, the rabbi making the claim here is not “some” rabbi, he was the Chief Orthodox Rabbi in the UK at the time.

          He said that Dawkins had misunderstood sections of the Hebrew Bible, which are also part of the Christian Old Testament, because he was a “Christian atheist” rather than a “Jewish atheist”.

          Obviously Jewish atheists understand things better than Christian atheists! Lost in translation perhaps? I’m sure that genocide were directed by the God as described in the Old Testament, doesn’t lose much from its description even when translated.

          • Greg H
            Posted December 21, 2018 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

            My point is this: if criticizing Bronze Age religious beliefs/practices/culture is going to simply get you denounced as an anti-Semite, and result in shutting you out of public discourse, then we haven’t come too far as a species. I oppose barbarism, ignorance, cruelty, and intolerance whenever and wherever I see it, whether done by ancient Jews, modern Jews, ancient Arabs, modern Arabs, Romans, Greeks, Brits, Americans, Christians, Buddhists, white, black, yellow, purple. I think we stifle the search for truth and reality when we assign racist motives to those who present justified criticism of the beliefs and behaviors of some group of people, ancient or modern. In the end, the only thing that matters is if we can learn, collectively, from the mistakes of our past and try to do better going forward.

            • Kevin
              Posted December 22, 2018 at 4:44 am | Permalink

              I would agree with all of that.

              In my view the VERY use of ant-Semitism as a word and concept is unfortunate and, as you say, “shuts doen public discourse”.

              It makes Jews a special case: there is no analagous term for Christian + race/ethnicity, Muslim + race/ethnicity, Hindu + race/ethnicity.

              (Jew by genealogy) AND/OR (Jew by religion) = Jew.
              Anti [(Jew by genealogy) AND/OR (Jew by religion)] = anti-Semite.
              That dentity relation only works for Jewish.

              The use of the word anti-Semite has been so overused recently as to downgrade its impact.

              If you look at the debate concerning Israel, just between right and left wing Israelis as expressed in Israeli newspapers, the word anti-Semite has been reclassified. It is now code for anyone not supporting pro-Israeli Zionism.

              That really DOES stifle debate (and that suits Israel in the long term).

              Just looking at Israeli newspapers, for the Nationalist faction (pro-Netanyahu let’s say) the term is routinely used to mean ANYTHING anti-Israel effectively. A parachute term against critique.
              Left wing Israelis critical of the government view are routinely discarded as anti-Semitic (self-hating Jews).
              The word is coming to be a tool of the Israeli political right: it serves to polarise positions in what is really a Right versus Left issue. Ant-semite = non Israeli-Nationalist = Anti-Zionist = Left-wing Jew.
              Pro-Palestinian refugee = pro-Palestinian terrorist = anti-Israeli = ant-Zionist = anti-Semite.
              Simple locked-in mindset.

              Even the recent IHRA document, which is intended to define “ant-Semitic”, is heavily pro-Israeli (it mentions Israel 9 times in a one page document where it should not be mentioned at all!).
              A POLITICISED definition of anti-Semitism: not to be condoned.

              The use of the word anti-Semite as an overused, codifying, political tool (as routinely done in relation to defense of Israel) cheapens the word and supresses discourse.

      • Posted December 21, 2018 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

        LOL, let’s imagine Richard Dawkins had the courage to write that about Muhammad…….

        But yes, the quran is anti Semitic, blatantly so. Not only does it call for the killing of Jews, but Muhammad had his henchmen murder 800 Jews in a single day, cutting their throats while he and his 9 year old wife watched. Sounds a lot like ISIS 1400 years later eh?

        As for dawkins’ rhetoric, is is very morally judgmental, which is ironic given his “universe is meaningless… dance to our DNA” writings.

        • Kevin
          Posted December 21, 2018 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

          There was also the massacre by Crusaders after the battle of Acres of 2000 Muslim prisoners, in front of the Saracen army. The King of England was responsible for that one.
          Its not actually written into the New Testament, admittedly, but its on a par with any atrocity in the Old Testament.

          Maybe that’s where ISIS gets its ideas though.

          Maybe we should learn from the atheist view that the Universe has the meaning that you ascribe to it. In the end, that is what religion is doing as well: making up the meaning.

      • Nicolaas Stempels
        Posted December 21, 2018 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

        Well, if one reads the OT (or Tenach, the order of the books is better in the Tenach) it is undeniably so (God as malevolent psycho). A fact.
        So no, it is not antisemitic, and would require quite some tortuous line of thought to call it that.

  11. Posted December 21, 2018 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    These things are outrageous and scary.

  12. Greg H
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    I was raised in a very devout Christian household, with an interesting twist: we observed some of the Jewish laws and all of the holy days outlined in the Hebrew Scriptures. Yet we were also taught that the Northern Europeans were the true descendants of the Israelites rather than those who today call themselves Jews. That’s how we “atoned”, I guess, for our anti-anti-Semitism.

    In any case, (mainstream) Christians are quick to label such sects as full blown cults who are not truly Christian. A way to protect the brand, I guess.

    And then there’s this I saw today:

    I was outraged. This is another tactic that Christians have often used: if X commits a heinous crime, then X is clearly *not a true Christian*. I call BS on that. By the pope’s logic, a whole bunch of crusaders, conquistadors, inquisitors, and other pleasant figures from Catholic history were not really “true Christians” after all. Therefore, Christianity has done no wrong.

    • Nicolaas Stempels
      Posted December 21, 2018 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

      Apart from the title, nowhere in the article, (or in the ‘read more’) does the Pope contend these priests were non-believers. I do not say he didn’t, but in that link he doesn’t.

      • Greg H
        Posted December 21, 2018 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

        I’m assuming this was implied (or so the author of the article thought) when he used the term “convert” in giving direction to the offending priests.

  13. Pray Hard
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    As moslems burn them.

  14. Nicolaas Stempels
    Posted December 21, 2018 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    I think much of the antisemitism in Europe is fuelled by Muslim immigration.
    However, in this case these ‘fans’ appeared of good ‘Aryan’ stock. Scary.

  15. Diane G
    Posted December 22, 2018 at 4:07 am | Permalink


  16. Malgorzata
    Posted December 22, 2018 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Zionism, before modern Israel was established, was an idea that Jews should have an own state because they were suffering persecution whenever they lived and were not able to defend themselves. Anti-Zionism was then the idea that Jews should be a loyal citizens of countries of their residence and that civilization and laws will make them equal citizens which will put stop to persecution. II World War solved this discussion in favour of Zionists.
    Since Israel was established, Zionism means that Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state. Anti-Zionism means that Israel doesn’t have the right to exist. There are many arguments to justify this position and one of them is demonisation of Israel. The truth about the difficulties of defending the country against terrorists using their own civilians as shields to attack Israelis and then presenting civilian victims as a proof of Israel’s barbarity is carefully hidden. Israel is judged according to double standards and behavior which is normal for police and armed forces in the whole civilized world is presented as barbaric when done by Israel. All in the name of human rights, democracy and noble anti-Zionism which, God forbid, has nothing to do with antisemitism.
    Here are a few quotations from a recent article which show how much these two have in common and how inciting to hatred against Israel ends in hatred against Jews.
    The article is about an antiracism play by Stephen Laughton, a British Jew, who opposes Netanyahu, settlements and everything a good member of the political left should oppose. But he doesn’t oppose the existence of Israel. Just two reactions to his play:

    “One message sent to me said, ‘Why should I support your play when you effing Jews are blowing up Palestinian babies?’” Laughton pauses and looks rueful. “I’m not blowing anyone up, nor do I want to.”

    Someone else wrote: “Perhaps you could write a play about Palestinian kids getting blown to pieces by Jews”; and “You’re a fucking enabler. You Jews disgust me.”

    The whole article is here:

    • Nicolaas Stempels
      Posted December 22, 2018 at 10:42 am | Permalink

      As far bas I know it is rather palestinians blowing up jewish children. On the contrary, I always note how restrained the Israeli army is and tries to avoid civilian casualties.
      I can say that I’m -or would have been- not particularly zionist, but that is because Jews have indeed been so successful in integrating in the societies they live in.
      But then we see that anti-semitism didn’t die with the 3rd Reich, so a Jewish state is justified, difficult to argue against. And yes, at present anti-zionism is indistinguishable from anti-semitism.

      • Kevin
        Posted December 22, 2018 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

        “And yes, at present anti-zionism is indistinguishable from anti-semitism.”

        Really? What do you call it when the son of the Israeli Prime Minister tweets anti-semitic cartoons against another Jew (Soros) who is not in line with his father’s political interests?

        Soros and Reptilians Controlling the World: Yair Netanyahu Posts Meme Rife With anti-Semitic Themes

        The Reptilians come from David Icke’s book which was recommended by Alice Walker, resulting in accusations of her being anti-Semitic. The reptiles are taken to be a symbol of Jews in a plot to control the world, hence the ant-Semitic symbolism in Netanyahu’s cartoon.

        Evidently an Israeli can be anti-Semitic too when convenient to his Daddy’s politics.

        Where this fits in with anti-Zionism I would hate to say.
        Shooting yourself in the State of Israel foot perhaps.

        A perfect example of how Israel abuses the ant-Semitic trope for political ends.

  17. Torbjörn Larsson
    Posted December 22, 2018 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    My inner child laments: I really, really hoped to see racism (and populism) vanish as I grew up.

    • Diane G
      Posted December 23, 2018 at 5:32 am | Permalink

      Right? As a child–an adolescent, I suppose, someone who’d at least begun to think for herself–I was confident that we were inexorably homing in on fundamental truths about life and, in particular, our role as a species in the biosphere. Positive that our data showing how much we had in common with each other would naturally flow to the adoption of a secular, rational, evidence-adhering world view,and consequently make clear the threats to our advancement (or mere survival) as a species. The past few decades have put an end to that naive confidence.

  18. Kevin
    Posted December 23, 2018 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    I found this 2013 aricle on the subject of the thread:

    Includes some historical context.
    Hope it is of some interest.

    • Diane G
      Posted December 23, 2018 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

      Most apropos–thanks.

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