Saturday: Hili dialogue

PCC(E) has returned, but is tired and pressed for time. A big thanks to Grania for doing the Hili Dialogues in my absence, and also for providing all the tweets today.

It’s Saturday, September 15, 2018, and a cursory inspection of Botany Pond this morning showed no ducks. They’ve probably fled because their islands were “landscaped” yesterday. I do hope Honey and James return, as I have about ten pounds of duckling food to help them fatten up before their Great Migration.

It’s National Linguine Day, and also International Day of Democracy.

We’ll have a cursory account of “what happened on this day” events, as I’m harried. Here are a few events that happened on September 15; these are taken directly from Wikipedia:

  • 1530 – Appearance of the miraculous portrait of Saint Dominic in Soriano in Soriano Calabro, Calabria, Italy; commemorated as a feast day by the Roman Catholic Church 1644-1912.
  • 1835 – HMS Beagle, with Charles Darwin aboard, reaches the Galápagos Islands. The ship lands at Chatham or San Cristobal, the easternmost of the archipelago.
  • 1916 – World War I: Tanks are used for the first time in battle, at the Battle of the Somme.
  • 1935 – The Nuremberg Laws deprive German Jews of citizenship. And another event the same day:
  • 1935 – Nazi Germany adopts a new national flag bearing the swastika.
  • 1959 – Nikita Khrushchev becomes the first Soviet leader to visit the United States.
  • 1981 – The Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously approves Sandra Day O’Connor to become the first female justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
  • 2008 – Lehman Brothers files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, the largest bankruptcy filing in U.S. history.

Notables born on September 15 include William Howard Taft (1857), Agatha Christie (1890), and Murray Gell-Mann (1929, still with us), Those who died on this day include Thomas Wolfe (1938, one of my favorite writers), Cootie Williams (1985), and Harry Dean Stanton (2017).

Meanwhile in Dobrzyn, Hili has been affected by Donald Trump!

Hili: I’m looking and thinking.
A: What about?
Hili: How much fake news I’m going to read today.
In Polish:
Hili: Patrzę i zastanawiam się.
Ja: Nad czym?
Hili: Ile dziś przeczytam fałszywych wiadomości?
Tweets from Grania; her captions.
From the Internet today:
Weird sign of the times:

Star-crossed love. Although the cynic in me suspects that the seal wishes to eat the butterfly.

An argument on the Internet being settled in the most polite way possible. I suspect the methodology is flawed though as people are more likely to “like” than to “RT” (retweet).

Cat science:

A failure to reproduce Lady and the Tramp:

I didn’t know you could be a masseuse to a groundhog:

Hat-tip: H. Styles



  1. Grania Spingies
    Posted September 15, 2018 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    The actual answer to the UK / Rep. of Ireland Great Scone debate

    • infiniteimprobabilit
      Posted September 15, 2018 at 8:14 am | Permalink

      That’s interesting. I’m from the south coast originally, but I always thought it was ‘sconn’. I thought ‘scone’ (like ‘cone’) was a Scottish thing. Apparently not. Maybe I was misled by the Stone of Scone. Though apparently I was worng there too because the Scottish village of Scone is apparently pronounced ‘Scoon’.


      • Posted September 15, 2018 at 11:34 am | Permalink

        You are correct now. The tea bread is pronounced as in gone, and the town is pronounced Scoon. As the Scots invented the scone, I think we’re entitled to specify its pronunciation. 🙂

    • George
      Posted September 15, 2018 at 8:20 am | Permalink

      My saintly Irish mudder is from West Cork – so I have been pronouncing scone (as in cone) correctly.

      • Grania Spingies
        Posted September 15, 2018 at 8:45 am | Permalink

        I live in Cork, but I’m not Irish and my mother hails from the south of England, so I pronounce it incorrectly for where I live, using the “gone” pronunciation.

        • George
          Posted September 15, 2018 at 10:49 am | Permalink

          I think there is a bit of a difference between Cork city and the once village of Thornhill on the Beara peninsula, a few miles from Castletownbere.

          • Grania Spingies
            Posted September 15, 2018 at 10:54 am | Permalink

            True, but not in their scone-habits.

            In any case, Weshhht Cork and Cork all fall under the big umbrella of the Rebel County.

        • Jenny Haniver
          Posted September 15, 2018 at 11:03 am | Permalink

          Gee, I thought “Spingies” was a good old Irish name! If it’s not (German, perhaps?), it ought to be; and if it’s a pseudonym, it still ought to be. And if you live in Ireland, as far as I’m concerned, you can call yourself Irish.

          • Grania Spingies
            Posted September 15, 2018 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

            It’s my real name, I’m German, or at least, so says my passport. I could probably lay claim to Irish through my mother’s side of the family, but it’s somewhat of a murky mystery seeing as she grew up in an English Catholic orphanage in Devon during WWII.

            The surname was Prussian in our immediate family history although I believe it has Lithuanian origins.

            • Jenny Haniver
              Posted September 15, 2018 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

              Those are fascinating twists and turns of genetics and onomastics, including a “murky mystery.” Whatever its origin, or yours, I think “Spingies” is a neat name.

    • gscott
      Posted September 15, 2018 at 9:31 am | Permalink

      Nice map! My (recently-departed) Scottish father was always in the ‘gone’ camp, but since I’m American and also lived in the West of Ireland, I use the ‘cone’ pronunciation.

      Either way, my wife makes some tasty scones.

      • Terry Lynne Pedersen
        Posted September 15, 2018 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

        who cares how to say it? That picture is

  2. Roger
    Posted September 15, 2018 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    God is always polite and waits for people to invent things. Thus in the 16th century we have a miraculous portrait instead of a miraculous photo or miraculous hologram.

  3. George
    Posted September 15, 2018 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    Looks like she is trying to recreate “Lady and the Tramp” with ramen – not spaghetti. And the cheap, packaged ready in three minutes ramen.

    • rickflick
      Posted September 15, 2018 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

      So? It’s a low budget remake. According to Wikipedia Rocky was shot on a budget of $1 million and eventually grossed $225 million. So there.

  4. Ken Kukec
    Posted September 15, 2018 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    Damn, Harry Dean Stanton’s dead? He was one of my favorite American film actors. Guess it happened last year while we were without electricity here due to Hurricane Irma, so I never heard about it.

    Like finding out one of the faces has disappeared from Mr. Rushmore. Seemed like ol’ Harry Dean would go on forever.

    • darrelle
      Posted September 15, 2018 at 9:34 am | Permalink

      When I read that I immediately googled his name because I had not heard he had died either. I liked him too. Though, as usual, my taste is perhaps of a lower order than yours. The first movie I think of when I think of roles he has played is Escape From New York.

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted September 15, 2018 at 10:42 am | Permalink

        Oh, I don’t know about that, darrelle; my tastes can run pretty déclassé sometimes. 🙂

        The role most closely identified with HDS is probably from Paris, Texas, but he had hundreds of movie roles, dating back to the 1950s. He’s one of two character actors, along with M. Emmett Walsh, that the late Chicago Sun-Times critic Roger Ebert said could be counted on to make everything they were in better.

        HDS had a lead role in a film released last year, Lucky. I haven’t seen it yet, but I’ma gonna.

        • Mark R.
          Posted September 15, 2018 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

          The Repo Code kid!

          • Mark R.
            Posted September 15, 2018 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

            Sorry PCC(E)…forgot to delete the http:!

            • Ken Kukec
              Posted September 15, 2018 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

              Yeah, that’s one of his roles I had in mind when I was writing my comment!

  5. Blue
    Posted September 15, 2018 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Can this possibly be of T r u t h and
    in re Ms Hili’s concern about
    djt and fake news ? His becoming … . ..
    able to … … get this: Trump’s being
    to almost all Americans’ cell phones ? ! and


    A friend, if true, stated to me that
    he had in reponse to this … … but one finger.


    • Jenny Haniver
      Posted September 15, 2018 at 10:24 am | Permalink

      That is truly ominous. Sounds like Trump and Little Rocket Man have been ‘colluding’ on refining ways to control their populace. Though I understand the legitimate need, as explained in the article, it’s ominous for a couple of reasons, one given in the article’s sub-heading: “Experts expressed little concern that the wireless emergency alerts could be used for political purposes.” It’s worrying because, especially for this president (“L’etat c’est moi”), the danger is great that it would be used for political purposes. In fact, with him, it’s unthinkable that it wouldn’t be, and that the use of such technology would soon proliferate well beyond FEMA, and he’d essentially force the citizenry to listen to his diatribes whenever the urge hits him (about every few minutes).

      Even within the context of an emergency, it could be disastrous since Trump politicizes everything (think of Trump and Puerto Rico “Don’t worry, go back to drinking your piña coladas, everything will be all right. I’ll ride in on my white horse, Air Force One, to save the day and bring you paper towels to sop up the mess.”

      It’s also worrying because “FEMA stated that the government cannot track end users’ location through this alert system” – maybe not now, but who knows about in the future. I’ve grown so cynical, I don’t believe any of these “Experts.” Their expertise is in duping the populace with their “don’t worry, everything will be all right” re damned near everything, small or large, there’s a legitimate need to worry about.

      • Jenny Haniver
        Posted September 15, 2018 at 10:25 am | Permalink

        Hili nose bullshit when she smells it.

      • Taz
        Posted September 15, 2018 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

        If Trump spammed everyone’s phone with a message that could be considered the least bit political, it would hand the next election to the Democrats.

        • Blue
          Posted September 15, 2018 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

          I would like to believe this, Taz; but as
          I am unable to know the future, I will not wager on that happening in y2020.

          Cuz ? .THAT. is of the type of “future” on
          Monday, 07 November y2016, which a whole lotta.lotta.
          others were so, so certain.


          I was not among them: Knowing of certain ‘other’ Americans
          from their past behaviors ? I, indeed,
          placed a wager with PCC(E) that: djt would win then,

          So … … just sayin’ thus: past behaviors ?
          = THE best prefictor of ones’ “future” behaviors.


  6. Don Quijote
    Posted September 15, 2018 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    As explained by an English friend; “when it is served to you it’s a scone, and when you’ve eaten it it ‘scon.”

    • darrelle
      Posted September 15, 2018 at 9:36 am | Permalink

      Well . . ., that does make perfect sense.

  7. Posted September 15, 2018 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    That rodent is so pale — is it a prairie dog rather than a woodchuck?

    • Jenny Haniver
      Posted September 15, 2018 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

      Why so pale and wan fond rodent?
      Prithee why so pale?
      Will, when petting well can’t move you,
      Looking ill prevail?
      Prithee why so pale?

      • Posted September 15, 2018 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

        Good one!

        • Jenny Haniver
          Posted September 15, 2018 at 3:03 pm | Permalink


          • Jenny Haniver
            Posted September 15, 2018 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

            But I wish I could have figured out how to get “prairie dog” and “woodchuck” into a second verse, but it’d take too long,and possibly impossible.

      • Diane G
        Posted September 16, 2018 at 2:47 am | Permalink


  8. Posted September 15, 2018 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, Grania!

  9. JonLynnHarvey
    Posted September 15, 2018 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    The Nazis took the swastika (Svastika in Sanscrit) from Tibetan and Japanese Buddhism and then tilted it 45 degrees for some reason.

    Nonetheless, no Tibetan communities use it even in its correct horizontal-vertical orientation in the West. Hollywood film sets that reconstruct Tibet never employ it, though I once saw one in a documentary on Tibet.

    The Nazis ruined that symbol pretty much forever.

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