Thursday: Hili dialogue

by Grania

Good morning everyone! I hope everyone is safe and coffee’d up for the day.

In history today Hannibal Goodwin patented celluloid photographic film in 1898.
In 1899  Henry Bliss became the first person in the United States to be killed in an automobile accident. That has to be one of the suckiest ways ever to enter the history books.
In 1933 Elizabeth McCombs became the first woman elected to the New Zealand Parliament.
In 1962 an appeals court ordered the University of Mississippi to admit James Meredith, the first African-American student admitted to the segregated university.

In 1993 Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin shook hands with Palestine Liberation Organization chairman Yasser Arafat at the White House after signing the Oslo Accords granting limited Palestinian autonomy. Sadly, the peace process has not advanced in any meaningful way.

Birthdays today,  in 1944 – Peter Cetera, American singer-songwriter of sappy 80s power ballads including this one from the movie Karate Kid.

And in 1956 – Joni Sledge, American singer and songwriter of the group Sister Sledge (d. 2017)

Over in Poland Hili is discovering the true horror of being human. I don’t think she is impressed.
A: Let’s start working.
Hili: Again?
In Polish:
Ja: Zabieramy się do roboty.
Hili: Znowu?

Over to Twitter for random bits of the Internet’s flotsam and jetsam.

God can be a facetious jerk sometimes

I’m sure they were on their coffee break

As Mitzi once said, “It’s nice in a hideous sort of a way”.

Nerd joke of the day

Everyone’s a critic.

Seeing as everyone like the bat eating a banana yesterday, here’s a cat eating corn on the cob.

I’m inclined to agree. Or at least put a message down there saying STOP LOOKING AT YOUR DAMN PHONE UNTIL YOU ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

No comment

And once again, the dignity of cats

You may just want to have the vegetarian option this time










  1. Graham Martin-Royle
    Posted September 13, 2018 at 7:53 am | Permalink

    Re: the pedestrian crossing signals, some people obviously need to be removed from the gene pool, why should we stop them from removing themselves? (In case anyone’s wondering, this is meant as a joke)

    • infiniteimprobabilit
      Posted September 13, 2018 at 10:35 am | Permalink

      The trouble is, they cause major delay and inconvenience scraping them off the bottom of your car, and if any bits of panelwork get bent, trying to claim the cost of repairs off their next of kin is usually futile.


  2. Terry Sheldon
    Posted September 13, 2018 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    In Peter Cetera’s defense it should be noted that he did some much better (or at least less schlocky) work in the 70s as the lead singer and bassist for Chicago.

    • W.T. Effingham
      Posted September 13, 2018 at 8:56 am | Permalink

      Also in Cetera’s defense, some of those schlocky tunes sell quite well (ka-ching!).😏

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted September 13, 2018 at 9:53 am | Permalink

      Wait, this Chicago?:

      • W.T. Effingham
        Posted September 13, 2018 at 10:11 am | Permalink

        Larry David 2020 – Laugh for Better Reasons.

    • Michael Fisher
      Posted September 13, 2018 at 9:54 am | Permalink

      There is NO defence for Peter Cetera nor for Chicago Transit Authority/Chicago! We can be grateful for the Disco Boom which kicked all that rot into touch for a few years.

      Cetera is a talented musician who wastes his hard earned abilities churning out mostly maudlin pap with 3rd rate lyrics. He’s like a post-Beatles McCartney whose output misses the mark 95% of the time. He is down there in the swamp with David Gates/Bread & a few other ignoble hard working underachievers whose work ends up in our lifts, hotel lobbies & playing over the PA system at the worst kind of depressing shops.

      The are a number of other turgid, soft rock hacks from that era still getting airplay. 7.5 billion people in the World & this is the best we can do? Aaaaaaagh! 🙂

      • mikeyc
        Posted September 13, 2018 at 10:13 am | Permalink

        Yeah and every time I hear of his sister Et, she’s just going on and on and on….

        • Michael Fisher
          Posted September 13, 2018 at 10:17 am | Permalink


        • Ken Kukec
          Posted September 13, 2018 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

          She should phone home.

      • KD33
        Posted September 13, 2018 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

        Michael – Chicago had nothing whatsoever to do with disco. That band was incredible in their early days, though they went all mellow later. Search YT for the 1970 Chicago concert at Tanglewood – as good as anything at the time, and not soft rock in the least. Tell me I’m wrong.

        • Posted September 13, 2018 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

          Chicago was good in the early days. I loved their version of “I’m a Man” and their later “25 or 6 to 4”. I hated what they turned into. I remember being dragged by a girlfriend in the 80s to a “Chicago” performance and it was pretty bad. It had hardly any of the original members.

        • Michael Fisher
          Posted September 13, 2018 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

          @KD33 [1] DISCO:
          Whatever gives you the idea that I wrote Chicago had “something to do with disco” – go back & look:-

          “We can be grateful for the Disco Boom which kicked all that rot into touch for a few years.”

          Another example of the same phenom is prog rock – it got eaten alive by punk & it deserved to be too, because as the great Robert Fripp said it lost its way – it stepped out onto the ice rink & kept a straight face – fleecing fools who paid good money to watch a display of lazy, humourless, codpiece pomposity with pointless, shite extended guitar noodling. make sure you understand I’m referring to late prog rock there – although for Chicago too chopsticks & slurpy lips are required to swallow the pointless, vapid, overrated jazz-rock lead guitar & absolutely terrible lyrics [lyrics are painfully bad for ALL eras of Chicago].

          [2] 1970, TANGLEWOOD, SET LIST:
          Introduction [KATH]
          In the Country [KATH]
          Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? [LAMM]
          25 or 6 to 4 [LAMM]
          Poem for the People [LAMM]
          I Don’t Want Your Money [KATH/LAMM]
          Mother [LAMM]
          It Better End Soon [LAMM, PARAZAIDER, KATH]
          Beginnings [LAMM]
          Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon [seven connected tunes PANKOW]
          I’m a Man [Spencer Davis Group]

          No Cetera lyrics poison in that set list – just his melodic masterful bass & vocals

          As reviewer Doug Stone on early CTA & Chicago: “…before mastering wedding material, Chicago was a rock & roll force to be reckoned with” the soft rock came later.

    • Posted September 14, 2018 at 3:58 am | Permalink

      Why oh why didn’t his parents name him “Ed”?

  3. Jenny Haniver
    Posted September 13, 2018 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Can someone please identify those birds fighting (or whatever they’re doing) with their bills?

    • Jenny Haniver
      Posted September 13, 2018 at 9:52 am | Permalink

      After a Google search, I’m pretty sure it’s a pair of waved albatross (whats the plural of albatross?) engaging in their mating dance.

    • Michael Fisher
      Posted September 13, 2018 at 10:06 am | Permalink

      The full video [inc audio] is a thing of wonder. Here:

      • Jenny Haniver
        Posted September 13, 2018 at 10:46 am | Permalink

        Gosh, that truly is a thing of wonder, and certainly gives a new meaning to the term “billing and cooing,” though those aren’t exactly cooing sounds to me; but I love ’em nonetheless.


      • rickflick
        Posted September 13, 2018 at 11:22 am | Permalink


  4. Posted September 13, 2018 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    That last one about “ass meat” may be due to someone relying on automated translation. Perhaps it should have been “beef butt” or something like that.

    • Jenny Haniver
      Posted September 13, 2018 at 10:48 am | Permalink

      “Beef butt” is just a cut above.

    • Posted September 14, 2018 at 3:59 am | Permalink

      rump steak.

  5. Torbjörn Larsson
    Posted September 13, 2018 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Florence downgraded to category 2 hurricane, continues course toward Carolina coast.

    Another Florence update:

    “Ten years ago today, Hurricane Ike made landfall as “only” a Category 2 hurricane along Galveston Island near Houston. Though Ike had 110mph winds at landfall, it had grown very large over the Gulf of Mexico, and this large size allowed it to develop an enormous amount of “integrated energy” that manifested itself as a devastating storm surge. With about $30 billion in damages, Hurricane Ike was, at the time, the second-costliest U.S. hurricane on record.

    The Hurricane Florence forecast has gone from bad to worse
    As of Thursday morning, Hurricane Florence has weakened to 110 mph as it contends with slightly increased wind shear and drier air. Technically this means Florence is no longer a “major” hurricane, and may not be when it reaches the North Carolina coast early on Friday morning. Practically, however, that won’t matter when it comes to storm surge and inland rainfall.

    The simplest, most common metric for the measurement of a storm’s intensity is maximum wind speed, and certainly this matters in terms of pure destructive potential when it comes to, say, losing a roof or propelling debris through the air. But when it comes to water, the maximum wind speed matters less than the size of the wind field for both storm surge and the destructive power of waves moving onshore. And Florence is a large storm, with hurricane-force winds extending outward up to 80 miles from the center and tropical-storm-force winds outward up to 195 miles.”

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    • Torbjörn Larsson
      Posted September 13, 2018 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

      Also, to no one’s surprise:

      “… the researchers took the current state of the world on Tuesday, dropped that into their model as a starting point, and pressed play to simulate ahead to Sunday. For a comparison simulation, they took those starting conditions and essentially subtracted out global warming. In this counterfactual world, the storm looks significantly different.

      Hurricanes are fueled by energy from the evaporation of warm seawater, so it’s no surprise that warmer sea surface temperatures should give the storm a boost. The size of the boost in this case is pretty remarkable, though. The model analysis showed the real-world Florence dumping 50 percent more rain near the coast than it would in a world without human-caused warming.”

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      • Michael Fisher
        Posted September 13, 2018 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

        Good stuff Torbjörn

  6. Blue
    Posted September 13, 2018 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Aren’t Mr Bronks’ twitter stuffs adorable ? !
    I love how he gives animals just regular hooman – like names !


  7. JonLynnHarvey
    Posted September 13, 2018 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    There really is Ramen marketed as “pork butt”.

  8. W.Benson
    Posted September 13, 2018 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Watch Florence here live (suggest you turn the sound to low):

    • rickflick
      Posted September 13, 2018 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

      Pretty impressive. With all that energy – going to waste so to speak – I can imagine large floating armadas of windmills floating across the Atlantic, hitching a ride on these storms as they spawn, they could store their energy in batteries until they reach shore where they could be discharged into the grid.

      • Michael Fisher
        Posted September 13, 2018 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

        Suppose we attack the problem of TOTAL electrical energy generation from the point of view of working from a nations TOTAL annual spending budget per annum ie Annual kWh generated per dollar spent – then you can see that nothing is free energy.

        Floating, mobile windmills with onboard battery storage that are sturdy enough to operate in 300km/hr winds are a massive over design given that these vessels 98% of the year will be handling 50km/hr or less wind speeds. Any windmill will be in the fast bit of a hurricane for half a day to two days. Then this vessel drags batteries around at some energy cost [my objection to electric cars is the onboard cost of carrying batteries around – what a silly idea carrying heavy batteries rather than more energy dense fuels or having the electric supplied by rails or wires externally]. I estimate that such collections of windmills will have to be borne by a platform a lot bigger than the USS Nimitz [CVN-68] supercarrier, they will cost billions of dollars each & will take 5 to 10 years to build! The build carbon footprint will be huge.

        The problem we have is NOT a lack of energy – the problem is the energy is not cost-effective energy. If you’re building supercarrier windmills that on average are operating at say 15% capacity that’s helluva lot of money not available to spend on very low maintenance stationary geothermal, stationary nuclear, stationary tidal energy buoys & so on.

        Energy is costing more per kWh each year when we might expect the cost to drop with technology improvements. Ain’t happening & it needs to happen. The best way to be more cost effective about energy is to reduce the bottom line costs – make energy go further by using less energy per task: Design communities for less travel needed & encourage walking & cycling. PAY people to walk.

        Spending $10,000 insulating a home is better investment for a nation economy than sourcing the fuel equivalent & the saving is for no cost after the energy saved has paid for the insulation. My new HiFi speakers have a built in DAC & they turn off after 15 minutes of non-use – I have no choice about that because the EU insists on such measures to sell devices within the EU – good socialist stuff. 🙂

      • Michael Fisher
        Posted September 13, 2018 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

        Tapping the geothermal energy** under the Yellowstone supervolcano would easily power the entire USA. There are numerous supervolcano opportunities scattered around the world that would do away with the need for using fossil fuels entirely. Geothermal projects around Yellowstone can be made effectively invisible if we spend more one-off dollars employing good energy, architecture & landscape architecture. Even the grid could be buried where it matters visually.

        ** NZ tried this & screwed up by draining the groundwater – shutting off around 70 geysers! This is bad planning & can easily be avoided.

        • rickflick
          Posted September 13, 2018 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

          Now, I really like that idea (I actually have a simple form of Geo Thermal for my house – HVAC system whose coils run underground). But, you’d need quite a transmission network to get that power to the east coast from Yellowstone. I think the west coast has plenty of near surface magma to tap. Hawaii should already be doing that. Are they? NZ should start again. Southern Europe and all around the Pacific Rim of Fire should have no problem. Japan, where are you? How can we speed things up.

          • Michael Fisher
            Posted September 14, 2018 at 12:33 am | Permalink

            Hawaii is the only US state to pass a law to go entirely ‘renewable’ [by 2045]
            They have ONE Israeli owned ‘for profit’ geothermal plant – the recent lava flows shut it down – that’s what happens when you build your geothermal in one spot to maximise quick profit! It will be closed for months at least. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Nothing that happened was unlikely to happen & a much more expensive distributed plant was the obvious way to go, but money spoke. You can’t put your energy development in private, for profit hands because eventually they’ll fuck up.

            NZ has no worries as they have a dozen plants spread across a number of geothermal fields. They now reinject the water to keep the water table happy.

            California is the biggest user of geothermal in the world – lots of plants & many of them inland & high up. They produce 80% of the US geothermal lecky. LOTS of potential fields on the West coast & the middle States – not much potential on the East coast.

            Japan has 20 small plants – all of them decades old. Expansion has been on the back burner in Japan because citizen resistance to despoiling natural beauty & the tourism thingy [hot spring baths blah blah], but Fukushima has changed the thinking.

            We could speed things up by the usual process of throwing government money about – same as solar, but make it so private industry doesn’t take the lean, white meat of subsidies only to tip toe away when the going gets tough. Musk is an example of this, but plenty others. Happens all the time in these deals. Politicians aren’t good at deal making – perhaps we should get Trump on it?

            There needs to be regulatory bodies that can keep their eye on the ball for half-century time spans – they would oversee efficient expansion. Infrastructure is a long term, expensive game, but the big energy players are short termists. I can’t think of any good solution to this.

            • Posted October 17, 2018 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

              I like small, de-centralized energy production. Cannot be shut down all at once and is good for democracy and local self-rule.

          • rickflick
            Posted September 14, 2018 at 9:35 am | Permalink

            Sounds like lots of potential there. I didn’t know geothermal had become a successful competitor as in NZ. But, you paint a bleak picture of humanities ability to accomplish what needs to be done. Unfortunately, based on history, that does not sound improbably pessimistic. The only major international success story I can think of is the regulation of fluorocarbons back in the 70s. Perhaps, when things start to get really bad – 2050 or so? – there will be a WW2 style mobilization and we will get our shit together. Right now the solutions are evident – geothermal, wind and solar. Hypothetically the world could probably convert to 95% renewables by 2050 if there was a perfect storm of effort and cooperation. But when the worlds greatest democracy can elect the worlds dumbest pumpkin as their leader…

            • Michael Fisher
              Posted September 14, 2018 at 9:53 am | Permalink

              Mad Max water & power wars, mass migration, disease, famine – I think Pinker’s Better Angel improvement trends are going to be tested.

              NZ with it’s lovely ocean moat may become the next Bali-style foreign destination for the hipster rootless ~ with plans not to go back home. The NZ Overseas Investment Act is being updated [this year?] so overseas nationals will generally be unable to buy existing homes or residential land within NZ – I haven’t looked up why. The land of Hobbits & weird birdies is going to be yuge.

              • rickflick
                Posted September 14, 2018 at 11:15 am | Permalink

                I checked a few years ago after a delightful visit to NZ. At that time, coming from the US, you had to have $5 million if you were under 50 or $10 million if you were over that age to settle there. They make DT’s border wall look like a picket fence.

  9. Posted September 14, 2018 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Anyone read Japanese? What does it actually say?

    • Michael Fisher
      Posted September 14, 2018 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

      It is Korean. I’ve put the image through an OCR program & got this:
      [Line 1] 돼지 고가라딴 꼬챠 구이 베스트
      [Line 2] 뚫갔훅짭훅칭훅짭

      Yandex translation:
      [1] Pork is a remote tail pack Buy Best
      [2] Punch down the hook thing hook matching the hook thing

      My translation of Yandex:
      [1] Buy Best Pork Rump
      [2] no clue

      • Posted September 17, 2018 at 11:29 am | Permalink

        The second line looked like sinographs (“Chinese characters”) to me – yes, looking again the first line does look hangul, hence Korean.

        • Michael Fisher
          Posted September 17, 2018 at 11:39 am | Permalink

          According to Google Translate both lines are Korean
          Line 2 seems to my saying “Hooked hook” which I suspect is a reference to a BBQ technique as per Paul Topping’s comment

    • Posted September 14, 2018 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

      According to my wife, a native-born Korean and Korean-English interpreter, the menu’s Korean for the “ass meat” item says:

      “Best pork skewer bbq”

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