John Sununu schools Alisyn Camerota of CNN

Here we have John H. Sununu, who must pose a dilemma for the Control-Left: he’s a conservative who was George W. Bush’s chief of staff (remember?), a Republican who’s taken some dreadful stands on stuff like the environment, and yet he’s also a Palestinian-Lebanese-American who was born in Cuba. I would guess that his ideology trumps his background, and it clearly does for CNN reporter Alisyn Camerota, who anchors their “New Day” program (she used to be on the Fox News network).

Here she’s soliciting Sununu’s opinion about the late John McCain, and then tries to get him to pronounce (and probably criticize) Trump’s mealymouthed reaction to McCain’s death. (The White House flag incident was an embarrassment for “President” Trump.) But Sununu refuses to be drawn into Camerota’s game—and it is a game, despite her denial—and wants to stick solely to memorializing his friend McCain. That sounds pretty decent to me. And it’s absolutely clear that Camerota is trying hard to get Sununu to say something bad about Trump.

What I like about this clip is how smug and self-righteous Camerota is, and how cooly Sununu takes her apart. He’s unflappable, and makes her just look stupid. I don’t know Camerota’s politics, but here she comes out on the losing end of the confrontation. (I wish I were as cool under fire as Sununu is!)

God help me, but I get some pleasure out of watching smug Lefties get their pretensions pricked. Does that make me an alt-righter? No fricking way! You don’t have to like Trump or Sununu—or even John McCain—to appreciate this moment.

89 Comments

  1. Posted August 29, 2018 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Watching smug pricks get pricked is pleasurable regardless of their politics.

  2. Ken Kukec
    Posted August 29, 2018 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, well, some of us are old enough to remember the stench of anti-Semitism that clung to John Sununu around the time he got cashiered out of his job as White House Chief-of-Staff.

    I wouldn’t trust the s.o.b. for a hot second.

    • Posted August 29, 2018 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

      I miss Safire. I liked his column.

      • Hempenstein
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

        Indeed, I loved On Language.

    • Posted August 29, 2018 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

      You don’t have to fricking TRUST HIM to see him take apart the interviewer. As I said in my post, you don’t have to like him to appreciate what he does here.

      • Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

        Within the first few seconds of the interview, Sununu speaks of his totally irrational distrust of two respectable news sources. It’s right out of the extremist’s playbook.

        So it isn’t a matter of simply having prior knowledge of his despicableness; he is quick to display it IN the interview!

        Though I don’t find her a paragon of modern journalism, it was perfectly reasonable to ask what a former Governor would think of a President’s particularly unusual behavior.

        His disinterest in commenting is clearly about more than keeping the focus on McCain. He is, and has been, an ardent supporter of the people & policies that have nearly ruined this country, and you don’t need to be a smug Lefty to see it that way.

        • Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

          Just remember that the New York Times withdrew an article about Israel the other day because it wasn’t properly sourced. Do you trust the New York Times because it’s always reliable and therefore beyond question?

          • Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

            No one said anything about “beyond question”. It’s a matter of due diligence to subject any news source to reasonable scrutiny.

            My focus was on the predictable and extremist “fake news” position people like Sununu can be counted upon to traffic in, and which he was clearly snickering about here.

            WAPO & CNN are not without error, but by & large have earned their place among respected sources of news.

            So when are you going to organize a fun Darwin field trip to the UK like that one the students got to do?! 😉 Couple of vans, a nice group, head over to Down House…. just a thought.

            • infiniteimprobabilit
              Posted August 30, 2018 at 2:51 am | Permalink

              Sununu was just echoing the Trump ‘fake news’ schtick.

              Trump’s whine about Google being biassed towards left-wing news sources becomes clear when you see what he calls ‘left-wing’:

              https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/28/technology/donald-trump-google-rigged/

              “The PJ Media article that led to Trump’s claim turned this into a conspiracy in part by defining almost all major national news outlets in the US as on the left, compared to a number of smaller, opinionated and even conspiratorial sites on the right.

              The article’s author relied on a chart of media outlets made by former CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson, who has become a media critic on the right. The chart shows news organizations including ABC News, USA Today, CBS, the Associated Press, CNBC, Bloomberg, CNN, the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time, Politico and even People as being on the left.

              The only major national outlets shown as being on the right are the Wall Street Journal, McClatchy, Forbes, The Economist and Fox News.”

              (To anyone here in New Zealand – or Europe I suspect – the description of Time as left-wing would cause us to burst out laughing).

              So Google is just doing what Google does. Might as well Google “shape of the earth?” and complain when it comes back “round”.

              If you are such a fuckwit that any rational person knows you for a fuckwit, it is NOT a conspiracy for Google to report public opinion of you as a fuckwit.

              cr

              • Posted August 31, 2018 at 11:54 am | Permalink

                Re: the NYT – To this (admittedly leftist in local terms) Canadian, too.

        • Randall Schenck
          Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

          Run the tape again. The first thing out of her mouth is about Donald Trump. Your own prejudice makes your judgement suspect as well. If the idea of this piece is to get his opinion on McCain, why start the game with this Trump crap. It makes no difference what anyone thinks of Sununu. She was not doing anything close to jounalism – She was baiting. Trolling for ratings.

          • Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

            The idea of this piece was to get an opinion on more than one aspect of the story, including the behavior of a President.

            There is nothing whatsoever wrong with wanting to see if a Republican has anything to say about so obvious a matter as the way the leader of the free world behaves upon the death of a prominent politician of his own party.

            “Trump crap” is an important part of the story, as worldwide reaction to his behavior shows.

            • Historian
              Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

              Yes, it is an extremely common practice for TV reporters to ask guests questions about matters not directly related to their ostensible reason for appearing.

          • Torbjörn Larsson
            Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

            The tape was cut, so we don’t know how the reporter reacted. But of course she was fishing for ratings, that is the whole point of media economics. It is the same behavior that makes the original poster of the video go overboard to title this exchange as “ripping” from one or another, when it is nothing but baiting with poor language. Trolling would be to bring up unrelated points, wouldn’t it?

            A priori a media statement tend to be factual, there is statistics on that, so questioning Sununu on that seems appropriate. I stopped listening at that point, these shenanigans are not valuable. If the video is titled “rips”, “crushes” or “burns” it is likely neither, and most likely irrelevant.

          • infiniteimprobabilit
            Posted August 30, 2018 at 2:33 am | Permalink

            Run the tape again Randall. It clearly cuts in part way through the interview. We don’t know what or how much was previously said, but clearly she is NOT starting the game with this Trump crap.

            And Sununu could have dodged with ‘I just want to talk about McCain’ as he tried later on, but the first thing he resorted to was the old Trump ‘fake news’ schtick.

            cr

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

        I’ve got no truck with Alisyn Camerota (one way or the other), but I don’t see what’s so hot about what Sununu pulled here.

        Sununu’s been an outspoken supporter of Donald Trump (which I suspect has more to do with getting a dig in at Poppy Bush, than with the sagacity of the stable genius’s policies). Sununu also claims to have been a stalwart pal of McCain’s.

        Under the circumstances, I see no reason Camerota shouldn’t ask him about the disrespect Trump was showing his supposed buddy. Sununu weaseled out of answering by claiming he couldn’t trust WaPo and CNN’s reports on the topic. (All the sonuvabitch had to do was look at the flagpole atop the White House to see it was true!)

        The VFW and American Legion (among a host of others) could call out Trump for being a jerk. Why couldn’t Sununu, too-nu-nu?

        • Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

          Ken nails it.

        • Randall Schenck
          Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

          If you have a television Ken, you would have seen that CNN, MSNBC and others have been repeating this flag up, flag down business every 15 minutes. It gets old after awhile and most important, it is not news. It is filler. All these networks are doing is giving the Trump followers more to point at when they say – see, give me a break. Why do they want to feed this line?

          You would think if you looked at these channels for a few hours yesterday they were far more concerned with the flag business than with the death of McCain. It does get sickening and again, where is the journalism?
          They are just proving what Trump says all the time. He is the only story.

          • yazikus
            Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

            I really, really dislike that aspect of cable news. I do have a television, but not cable. I’ll stick to TVW (Washington’s version of CSPAN), thanks!
            The last time I was subjected to cable news while in a waiting room I couldn’t believe how salacious and tawdry it seemed.

            • Randall Schenck
              Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

              All I can say is – Stuff like this performance by this CNN person is exactly what Trump and is followers scream about. They are like dogs sniffing around Donald Trump and reporting every things he says and does. And then repeating it all day long. It is nauseating. They want to justify it and put lipstick on it but it is still a pig.
              This is the kind of junk journalism that Maddow does not participate in.

          • Ken Kukec
            Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

            I got rid of the regular tv, but I stream the cable news. I usually keep it on during the day on the big screen in the corner of the office, with the sound off, figuring the chyron will catch my eye in case Trump fires the special counsel or launches a nuke.

          • Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

            You’re absolutely right there. I watch CNN quite a bit but I had to fast-forward on their lengthy “reporting” on McCain-flag-gate or whatever they’re calling it. It was worth reporting once or twice at most.

            • Ken Kukec
              Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

              Mebbe so. But it was only Monday’s unrelenting public pressure that got Trump finally to issue the proclamation lowering the flag to half-staff again, and to make his lukewarm, backhanded statement praising McCain’s service.

              • Posted August 29, 2018 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

                You may be right that all the reporting on flag-gate was the pressure that forced the change but it isn’t MSM’s job to make the news, just report it. It’s not as if they were reporting on mass demonstrations outside the White House.

        • Lynn Wilhelm
          Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

          +1 million!

  3. Randall Schenck
    Posted August 29, 2018 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    She is what we sometimes refer to as a dick. CNN should get rid of that kind of person who makes a joke of journalism and probably would not know good journalism if it hit her in the face. She is just stupid enough to not know when to quit.

  4. pablo
    Posted August 29, 2018 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t he work for Bush I instead of II?

  5. Posted August 29, 2018 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    I have noticed this kind of thing on CNN more and more lately. Because Trump reliably attacks anyone who says things against him, it sets up this game where reporters try to get GOP politicians and Trump apologists to admit that Trump did wrong. This is undoubtedly justified in the reporters’ minds as getting the guest to admit to the facts and, sometimes, it is. But more and more it comes off as “gotcha” journalism.

    As with reacting to Trump’s constant lying, modern reporters need to find a solution to this problem. They need to avoid gotcha journalism while not appearing to normalize Trump’s bad behavior. In the Trump era, they all need to learn new skills.

    • Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

      Yeah, good point.

      But I’d add that the need to learn new skills is also because what once worked in the way of presenting actual facts is no longer effective to begin with. It was once a good thing to try to get politicians and apologists to admit wrongdoing. Journalists were considered to be doing their jobs.

      There was a time when it was OK to play “gotcha” because it was thought that someone deserved it. The popularity of “60 Minutes”, for example, was in large part based upon their confrontations of various scoundrels.

      Conservative viewers, more & more, discount facts in favor of an extremist ideology, and the rest of us can look bad or naive for wanting to apply older standards, like calling them on it.

      • Lynn Wilhelm
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

        This.

      • Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

        Right but I don’t think the MSM should adjust their reporting to appease Trump followers. This is just the kind of normalization of Trump behavior, and that of Trump followers, that they must avoid. Trump’s goal is to make us all numb to his outrageous talk and action and we can’t allow him to succeed. They need to apply those older standards but just with some recalibrated techniques.

  6. Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    I will admit one correct point that Camerota made, which is that the animosity between Republicans and Democrats did not start with the press.
    But for some time now even CNN has been constantly plumping up that animosity when it comes to reporting on every little action that Trump makes. Sure, there are plenty of awful and significant things to report, but they will criticize, at length, even non-newsworthy things like how he shakes hands.

    • Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

      Yes, of course. The press certainly didn’t create the divisions in America. But they do, in this and other cases, exacerbate them. Sometimes that’s okay, as when Trump does one of his many stupid acts. But in this case it’s not okay–it’s just trying to score anti-Trump points where it’s not appropriate.

      • mikeyc
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

        That’s right and it only feeds into the Trumpian narrative that the media is our enemy.
        It’s another example of a member of the media playing into his hands.

        It’s just all so depressing. FFS, SOMEONE has to be the adult in the room and we can’t count on the talking heads in the media.

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

      One more of the norms and institutions of American public life Donald Trump has actively undermined — the price we pay for having the most unfit chief executive in this nation’s history.

      I’m hopeful our country will recover when the Age of Trump finally comes to an end. But it will never be the same.

  7. Chris B
    Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    It is unsurprising tis was picked up by the ‘Trump Fan Network’ for distribution to his deluded base. Camerota plays right into the Bush admin’s bogus narrative about ‘fake news’.

    • Chris B
      Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

      Sorry, Trump admin, not Bush admin. Watching Sununu brought me back to that period in recent history which, in retrospect, is not quite so nightmarish compared to now.

      • darrelle
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

        I don’t know. I agree that Trump and his administration are far worse than Bush Jr and his in most every way. With one or two exceptions. So far. Sure, I can imagine the disaster if the Trump administration started a couple of new wars, but Bush Jr actually did it. And along with their economic policies and foreign policy behavior thoroughly trashed both the economy and what positive reputation we may have had abroad.

        I understand what you mean (rhetorical device), but don’t ever let yourself actually believe it. The Bush Jr administration was indeed a nightmare and no matter how much the Trump administration might out do them in that respect, that will never change.

  8. Ann German
    Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    So glad I don’t have TV. The little clips I see on the internet reinforce my glee. What I can’t figure out is why these talk shows invite people like Conway, Nunberg, Santorum etc. (including this asshole) to appear simply to try to bait them. Who needs to hear from these folks . . . they have nothing newsworthy to say. Interview some real news makers, like young women scientists and writers and community organizers – THAT would be news!!!

    • Historian
      Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

      Cable news, as all television stations, strive to get as high a rating as possible. The occasional controversy that it can generate helps that effort. But what they do is not worse than local TV news,which I stopped watching about 20 years ago. For them, “if it bleeds it leads.” I just got tired of watching an inane report about the murder of the day or if there unfortunately was not a murder that day then a fire that took place 20 miles from where I live. It is hard to imagine a bigger waste of time than watching local news.

      • yazikus
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

        Perhaps because I’m a fast reader, I’ve always disliked consuming news via the television. Get on with it and tell me the actual news, don’t dawdle on your thinkery about the news! /shoutingattelevision

      • Filippo
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

        From my experience, medium-size city newspapers are a lot like the local TV news. I can read the histrionics, but don’t have to HEAR them. (And I rarely listen anymore to NPR a.m. and pm. news program hosts, what with I perceive to be their increased tendency toward snarky histrionics and faux “What? Wait!” shock. Linda Wertheimer, Bob Edwards, Noah Adams, Robert Siegel, Carl Kassel, where are you?)

      • infiniteimprobabilit
        Posted August 30, 2018 at 3:04 am | Permalink

        I do agree about local news. We get the local ‘free’ paper (99% adverts) delivered whether we like it or not. I used to be a compulsive reader of everything but I’ve trained myself not to waste time on it. It goes straight on the pile of papers-for-dismantling-car-parts-onto (or similar messy things), or if that pile is already a foot high, then straight in the recycling bin.

        cr

  9. Jeffrey Shallit
    Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    I don’t get it. To me, Sununu comes off as evasive and smug, and Camerota comes off as factual and straightforward.

    • Posted August 29, 2018 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

      Sununu shows once again that he is an unconscionable jerk.

      But I get the defensiveness on the part of those of us on the left about the way many of us can act. We do have a problem.

      In partial defense of smug lefties, though,(and this may get me in trouble for assuming the truth of it), I’d say we also have a somewhat unfair burden in that we’re trying to behave well in the face of dealing with bat-guano right-wing types.

      Their extremes are orders of magnitude worse than ours, but, being the good liberals we are, we see nuance, and often criticize our own. Sometimes I think the self-punishment goes too far, but no doubt we do have an embarrassing wing!

      • mikeyc
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

        It is an unfair burden to be sure, but failing to take on that burden contributed to Trump’s victory, as it will in the Democrat’s upcoming failure in November. This reporter is just minor an example, but one on point.

        • Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

          “the Democrat’s upcoming failure in November”

          Ouch. You really think so?!

          What country should I move to?

          • mikeyc
            Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

            Actually, no I don’t. I just have no respect for -or confidence in- the party and think they have a knack for losing at every opportunity. Nevertheless, I think the Dems will take the house, though it will be a close run. I think that there are a whole lot of really pissed off people,so it’s possible that despite the Dems best efforts they’ll win enough seats to take the house. Turnout will be key. If Dems are true to form, however, it’ll be a Trump win.

            • Ken Kukec
              Posted August 29, 2018 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

              Oh, I take a backseat to no one in proclaiming Democrats’ fecklessness. But they’ve won the popular vote in six of the last seven presidential elections, and they regularly get many more nationwide votes for the House and Senate. But they’ve let themselves get hosed on redistricting, and on parliamentary maneuvering (and suffer from the inherently undemocratic nature of the US senate).

        • Ken Kukec
          Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

          If the Dems don’t at least take the House of Representatives this Fall, we are, to quote Full Metal Jacket, in a world of shit.

          Trump will take it as a total endorsement of what he’s been doing. He’ll feel liberated to end the special counsel’s investigation and to do pretty much whatever the hell else he feels like doing. We’ll be on the path to authoritarianism, heading for banana republic status.

          Thing is, many more Americans will be voting for Democrats over Republicans in the midterms — probably millions more — the question is whether this will be enough to overcome the GOP’s advantage from its ruthless gerrymandering.

          • mikeyc
            Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

            Or to overcome the Democrat’s inability to learn from past mistakes.

      • Jeffrey Shallit
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

        Maybe it’s just me. For example, when I saw Reagan on TV, his phoniness and stupidity were apparent; his “aw-shucks” demeanor and folksiness seemed the most transparent fakery possible and I thought, “Who can possibly be fooled by this shtick?”

        But lots of other people actually thought he was genuine.

        • Ken Kukec
          Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

          I felt the same way about the Gipper. But compared to Trump, ol’ Dutch Reagan seemed like a statesman of Gladstone-&-Disraeli dimension.

        • Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

          I think he was genuine but just wrong.

        • darrelle
          Posted August 29, 2018 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

          Damn, I couldn’t have said it any better. I just didn’t get it then, never got it and don’t get it now. How in the hell can people fall for such carnyism?

          • Ken Kukec
            Posted August 29, 2018 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

            AS Mencken observed, “No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.”

            • darrelle
              Posted August 29, 2018 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

              I think I need a drink.

              • Ken Kukec
                Posted August 29, 2018 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

                C’mon, I’m buyin’.

              • darrelle
                Posted August 30, 2018 at 7:54 am | Permalink

                Thank you kind sir!

      • darrelle
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

        Very much agree. Well said, regarding several of your comments actually.

  10. Posted August 29, 2018 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    After listening to this video, I have to come to Camerota’s defense. Sununu started by slamming WaPo and CNN for no good reason. I suspect that he knew the reporting was true but chose to slam the media anyway as Trumpers are wont to do. Even if he really didn’t know anything about the White House-McCain issue, he could have just said so. In fact, after Camerota challenges him on his unprovoked slam of CNN, he says,

    “I don’t want to comment on a report that I haven’t satisfied myself as correct.”

    Now that would have been a reasonable response if Sununu had led with it. His ignorance doesn’t make the WaPo and CNN reporting wrong.

    • infiniteimprobabilit
      Posted August 30, 2018 at 2:25 am | Permalink

      I’d agree there. For the first minute Sununu was just echoing Trump’s ‘fake news’ schtick.

      Note that Drumpf’s whining about Google favouring the Left whenever anyone searches on ‘Trump’ is founded on labelling every news source less rightwing than Breitbart (including WaPo and the NYT) as ‘left-wing.

      Now Sununu could have just dodged and said he wanted to talk only about McCain, but he chose to stray into the Trump territory. I’d say if he was truly a close friend of McCain he would have shared McCain’s detestation of Trump and not want to defend Trump’s inaction in any way.

      cr

      • Posted August 30, 2018 at 11:29 am | Permalink

        Yes. I saw another Trumpist talking head on CNN yesterday that was asked to comment on the GOP’s candidate for Florida Governor’s “monkey” dog whistle. She said it was a terrible thing to say but then immediately segued into how his opposing candidate was a socialist that would devastate the FL economy. The CNN host called her on it and, to her credit, she seemed embarrassed.

  11. Michael Fisher
    Posted August 29, 2018 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    This video is bullshit – I agree with Torbjörn Larsson above that the front of the interview is missing. We are being shown the part where it’s natural for an interviewer to branch out from fulsome McCain praise to broader questions.

    I can’t find a copy of the full interview & there isn’t the usual CNN transcript, but I’ll keep looking.

    That said I don’t rate either person in the interview [my first encounter], but I see from Google that this pair have been like Tom & Jerry on at least two previous interviews.

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted August 29, 2018 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

      Alphonse and Gaston, they’re not. 🙂

      • Michael Fisher
        Posted August 29, 2018 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

        LOL nice one

  12. Posted August 29, 2018 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Share your opinion,sir.

  13. darrelle
    Posted August 29, 2018 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    I do agree that the reporter belabored the point too much and ended up looking bad. If she had stopped after the first 1:30 or so of this clip, by which time she’d well demonstrated Sununus bullshit tactics, I’d applaud her rather than criticize her. It has been far too rare for far too long that journalists call politicians and pundits on their bullshit, on the spot. In my opinion this is a significant factor in how we’ve gotten to this new era of facts don’t matter.

  14. Ken Kukec
    Posted August 29, 2018 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    John Sununu is a miserable prick. He was a miserable prick when he was White House chief-of-staff. And he was a miserable prick even before that when he was governor of New Hampshire (where he was the only US governor to refuse to denounce the UN resolution calling Zionism a form of racism).

    Sununu is one of those right-wing scolds, like William Bennett and Newt Gingrich, who always seem so grouchy and bloated their drug-of-choice should be extra-strength Midol.

    • sensorrhea
      Posted August 29, 2018 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

      He’s one of the original mad dads of the right, like Dick Cheney.

    • Diane G
      Posted August 29, 2018 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

      I agree, but if I knew nothing about Sununu I’d think that he came off as dignified in this clip, while Camerota came off as a super-smug, gotcha journalist.

      It really is possible to pursue a question and still be polite about it; in fact, politeness is more likely to elicit something from an interviewee than snark.

    • Filippo
      Posted August 30, 2018 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

      In the late 80’s, in an engineering education magazine, Sununu, an engineer and at the time a congressman, said to-the-effect that there needed to be an engineer (him) to counteract the influence of the 261 congressmen who where lawyers. I’m not sure that he has burnished the collective reputation of engineers.

  15. sensorrhea
    Posted August 29, 2018 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Sununu is a villain. This website is slewing hard to the right through the seductive route of choosing certain things to highlight and ignoring other things.

    Glad you don’t like Trumpism. It’s not a high bar.

    • sensorrhea
      Posted August 29, 2018 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

      Over the last few months I’ve watched in disappointment the (perhaps unconscious) filter at work. WEIT is going in the opposite direction from the awful PZ Myers vector. Even with Trump as president!

      Campus PC practices, like de-platforming, are problematic, but they are tiny compared to what’s going on.

    • Posted August 29, 2018 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

      Time for you to move on to other websites, then. I suggest Huffington Post, where you’ll get exactly the plethora and intensity of Trump hating that you apparently require. I’ve made my opinion about the First Idiot clear on this site, but apparently you’re not happy unless I spend ALL my time calling out the missteps and perfidy of our administration.

      As for your view that my own views are skewing hard right, that’s just dumb. I voted and will always vote Democrat/Democratic Socialist and liberal, but I also like to write about the inanities of the Left, for far too few progressives do that. If you don’t like it, you’re welcome to go away, but please don’t tell me what to write about or how to write about it. And please don’t tell me what political slant you want to see here.

      • Saul Sorrell-Till
        Posted August 30, 2018 at 6:29 am | Permalink

        I don’t think sensorrhea’s asking for constant round the clock anti-Trump articles. But some balance in the spread of subjects covered; it’s almost exclusively articles about how awful the ‘ctrl left’ is, with almost none that deal with the absolute horror show emanating from the right, not just the American right either since the far-right is gaining footholds everywhere in the western world.

        It’s not just Trump that gets a cursory mention here, it’s the horrifying leap into the unknown the _whole_ of the American right has taken. It frustrates me as a big fan to come here, my mind reeling from the latest step toward the abyss and find another two or three articles about Sarah Jeong or the illiberal left being sanctimonious on Twitter. Meanwhile the right are busy dismantling civil discourse and the basics of liberal democracy and it goes unremarked upon. Maybe it’s literally too painful to write about, but it seems to barely come up.

        What happened with Brexit helped Trump, and now the cross-contamination is complete with major British politicians actively embracing the kind of politics Trump makes his own. This is unbelievably serious shit. I’m worried, and very, very angry, and some of my favourite people of the PT era(pre-Trump era), like Douglas Murray and Dave Rubin, have turned out to be apologists for the populist right. You are not, which is why it’s frustrating to see the slant at WEIT become so prominent in one direction.

        And of course it’s satisfying to pick at the scab of the ‘ctrl-left’. They’re relentlessly annoying and it’s never less than fun to tear them a new one. But at some point it becomes a kind of itch that’s fun to scratch rather than something productive. How is WEIT any different from the Huffpost if it does the same as they do with Trump, only with the ‘ctrl-left’?

        Before you say anything I’m not telling you what to write; it’s up to you, this is your website, and I like it a great deal. I’m just explaining how I feel.

        NB: Obviously I speak for no-one but myself here, and only how I feel part of the time.

        • Posted August 30, 2018 at 11:34 am | Permalink

          What better place than to scratch one’s own itch but one’s website? The Ctrl Left is an itch that must be constantly addressed, IMHO. I know it can seem repetitive but their abuses keep coming and each should be countered.

          • Saul Sorrell-Till
            Posted August 30, 2018 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

            “What better place than to scratch one’s own itch but one’s website?”

            Well that’s true, can’t argue with that. And long may she sail(IDK if that’s a phrase).

            Like I said, it’s not up to me to try and corral someone into writing what I want them to write about. The idea of that is faintly creepy anyway. All I’m doing is trying to unburden myself of some of the(occasional) frustration I feel when I see another article about some obnoxious Twitter user, all while Trump and his minions are actively trying to deconstruct liberal democracy. More than that I was trying to step in on behalf of a user who expressed themselves snarkily but had a point about the skew of articles here.

            • Posted August 30, 2018 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

              Fair enough. I certainly share your frustrations. I guess I was trying to encourage you and other readers to fight on.

        • Taz
          Posted August 30, 2018 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

          But some balance in the spread of subjects covered; it’s almost exclusively articles about how awful the ‘ctrl left’ is

          Do you have anything to back that up? I think you have a bit of selection bias going on.

          • Saul Sorrell-Till
            Posted August 30, 2018 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

            I don’t think I do. But, like I say, I’m not claiming to speak for anyone else.

        • Filippo
          Posted August 30, 2018 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

          I’m reminded of Noam Chomsky’s remarking, in the context of U.S. foreign policy and behavior, that we (the U.S.) should hold ourselves to the same standard we presume to hold others. So (it seems to me) it is here with PCC (E)’s evaluation of the Left.

          • Saul Sorrell-Till
            Posted August 30, 2018 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

            I have been criticising the illiberal left for the last half-decade. It’s not about turning away from the subject. They infuriate me.

            But instinctively it seems to me that the recrudescence of the hard/far/populist-right is at the very least just as important. And setting all understatement aside I think it’s significantly _more_ important.

  16. kyuss
    Posted August 30, 2018 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    LOL. Look at her face when he says “cleavage”. She has no idea that the word has meaning other than boobs. Hilariously dumb.

    • Filippo
      Posted August 30, 2018 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

      For some reason the phrase “cleave unto his wife” comes to mind.

    • Diane G
      Posted August 30, 2018 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

      I know, I caught that too. I found her very smug and annoying. Too bad–all we needed was someone to make Sununu look like the good guy. Glad he started out with Trumpian prevarication.

      • Helen
        Posted August 30, 2018 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

        I was waiting for him to talk about the staffer who said something like, who cares what he thinks, he is going to die anyway.

  17. Maisey Kim
    Posted October 7, 2018 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Wow, this reporter just got her butt handed to her. What a disappointment for the female race to have her attempt to represent us.


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