Trump live in West Virginia

Need a good cringe? Watch this: it’s got all the buzzwords. Right now he’s banging on about the “fake news” at CNN.

I can’t say what I think of this man because this is a family-oriented website.

h/t: Blue

79 Comments

  1. Posted August 21, 2018 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    This is Hitler-esque.

    • Posted August 21, 2018 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

      It’s even more irrational than Hitler, as he’s just doing a mind dump.

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted August 21, 2018 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

        Never go full Nuremberg rally, man. Never.

        • Mark R.
          Posted August 21, 2018 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

          Are you implying that Trump is a retard? The outrage!

        • Mark
          Posted August 21, 2018 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

          The term Hillbilly-Nuremberg has been used

          • infiniteimprobabilit
            Posted August 21, 2018 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

            I would suggest that Hitler was a far more rational and capable politician than the Drumpf. Which is probably a very fortunate circumstance for the USA. (What I mean is, if Trump was competent he would be much more damaging).

            But then, the probability is that any politician chosen at random would be better than Trump. At least ten to one odds, I’d say.

            cr

            • infiniteimprobabilit
              Posted August 21, 2018 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

              Hmm, I think I’d better walk back the ‘rational’. How about, ‘calculating’ ?

              cr

            • David Coxill
              Posted August 22, 2018 at 1:27 am | Permalink

              Or as the saying goes in dear old GB .
              “If he had a brain he would be dangerous “

              • Mike
                Posted August 22, 2018 at 7:38 am | Permalink

                Or, he’s a Sandwich short of a Loaf, or The Wheel’s turning but the Hamsters gone, and the list of metaphors goes on and on.

            • darrelle
              Posted August 22, 2018 at 8:21 am | Permalink

              Shit. I’d be better than Trump.

              • Ken Kukec
                Posted August 22, 2018 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

                As Sam Harris put it, the nation would be better off with some rando name outta the phone book than Donald Trump — and that’s really sayin’ something.

      • JonLynnHarvey
        Posted August 22, 2018 at 12:13 am | Permalink

        Trump’s collaborator on “Art of the Deal” said Trump could not read a book, let alone write one.
        I’m pretty sure AdHit wrote every word of “Mein Kampf”

        • David Coxill
          Posted August 22, 2018 at 1:31 am | Permalink

          He spent his holiday in Landsberg prison dictating MK to Rudolf Hess .

        • W.Benson
          Posted August 22, 2018 at 1:44 am | Permalink

          Hitler’s original title was “Four and a Half Years of Struggle against Lies, Stupidity and Cowardice.”

          • David Coxill
            Posted August 22, 2018 at 2:47 am | Permalink

            I knewed that .

        • Posted August 22, 2018 at 4:38 am | Permalink

          I don’t know if you’ve read Mean Kampf (I’ve only read a few extracts), but the evidence I’ve seen suggests Hitler couldn’t write a book either.

          • Ken Kukec
            Posted August 22, 2018 at 7:48 am | Permalink

            Trump: “Where’s my Roy Cohn Rudolf Hess?”

          • David Coxill
            Posted August 22, 2018 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

            I bought a copy a few years back from Waterstone’s ,i bought a book by “Amos Elon” ,”The Pity Of It All ,A Portrait Of Jews In Germany 1743 -1933 ” at the same time ,very moving book ,not MK ,haven’t got round to that yet .
            Have you heard of “Hitler’s Table Talk ” ?
            Every word of wisdom spoken by AH was taken down By Bormann .
            AH was a terrible man ,not only did he start a war that killed Millions of innocent people ,he bored the pants off the people at his headquarters .

            I am cursed with a bad memory ,but i do remember him saying after the war there would be an Autobahn from Berlin to the Crimea so the master race could take their hols in the sun .

        • Ken Kukec
          Posted August 22, 2018 at 7:53 am | Permalink

          If you watch Trump try to deliver a speech from a teleprompter, you’ll see he reads like a slow 4th-grader. He always seems shocked when a sentence continues onto the next screen.

      • David Coxill
        Posted August 22, 2018 at 2:45 am | Permalink

        It is not bad muted and read the subtitles ,WHAT am i saying .

  2. Frank Bath
    Posted August 21, 2018 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Manafor, Cohen, what does this man have to do to lose his fan base?

    • Mark R.
      Posted August 21, 2018 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

      The bar is much lower than felony convictions of his henchmen. According to him (and I believe it) he can “…stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and [not] lose any voters.” Cult 45 is humming along.

      • David Coxill
        Posted August 22, 2018 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

        As i have posted somewhere else ,he could have roast Bald Eagle for dinner every night ,sell the liberty Bell for scrap ,use the declaration of Independence as TP ,and the saps would still vote for him.

        • Posted August 22, 2018 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

          It is still a constant source of amazement to me that so many people voted for Trump. He’d be almost the very last person on earth I would want to see as President. I didn’t like him before he started his campaign but didn’t really know much about him. Once he started the campaign, he was awful on all possible levels. There goes my amazement again!

    • Posted August 22, 2018 at 4:44 am | Permalink

      I doubt if many of Trump’s supporters have taken the time to find out who those two people are, and if they did, they would say they are casualties of the war against the socialist liberal elite and then they would double down on their support.

      Today, (22nd August) 538 is saying that Trump’s approval rating is 41%. Once the news of Mannefort and Cohen filters into the poll in, say a week, I doubt it’ll drop below 40%.

      • Posted August 22, 2018 at 6:51 am | Permalink

        I think you raise a crucial point. Love of Trump is one aspect (and it has cult elements in some). But hatred of other (“libtards”; “elites” “fureeners”; etc) is another crucial element. If you try engaing with Trump supporters online (I have tried to follow the somewhat sanctimonious advice of some of my more libertarian friends) then it doesn’t take long before the so-called conversation degenerates into shrieks and imprecations against “Obastard” (sic) “KKKillary” (sic) and so on and so forth.
        A coherent position you will not get. At least–not for long.
        Some people seem to be genuinely unaware that American factional politics is of very little interest outside America. And Trump is far from being a Republican anyway in terms of policy or attitude. He’s just holding the Republican party hostage. Its certainyly remarkable how little fight the Republicans put up, but I guess we are getting to witness what naked power worship looks like, and how thin and threadbare were stated principles. But this was true of evangelicals as well.

        • GBJames
          Posted August 22, 2018 at 7:23 am | Permalink

          “He’s just holding the Republican party hostage”

          I do not think this is correct. The Republican Party nurtured this base for decades. They cynically created hostility to reason and science. They fostered a culture of “alternative facts” very carefully by creating an isolated right wing media bubble. Trump is the consequence of the Republican political strategy, not some outsider who wandered in and mysteriously took it hostage.

          • Mike
            Posted August 22, 2018 at 7:45 am | Permalink

            They’re just reaping what the Evangelicals on the right have sown with their continual denigration of anything that is slightly rational.

          • Ken Kukec
            Posted August 22, 2018 at 8:19 am | Permalink

            The GOP’s been heading down this path since Nixon’s “southern strategy,” since Reagan’s states-rights speech in Mississippi and embrace of the religious right, since Poppy Bush’s Willie Horton ad, since the Party opened its arms to the Tea Party and the Birthers. Trump brought along the final, “alt-right” piece, rendering the Republican Party ripe for a complete Trumpist takeover.

          • darrelle
            Posted August 22, 2018 at 8:38 am | Permalink

            The Republican Party and its moneyed backers created and prepared their base with a purpose over a period of decades. But then Trump came along and stole a sizable enough chunk of that base which then put him in the White House. The RP lost control of the monster they had created. Sort of like Frankenstein only this monster has zero redeeming qualities.

            I agree that Trump is not holding the RP hostage. The RP has freely chosen their path and they chose to let Trump do whatever comes into his tiny little mind in hopes that they can retain as much power as possible and get back control of the monster they’ve created after Trump is gone. They chose this over working with the DP to minimize the damages Trump is inflicting. They are craven traitors to the US and the entire world.

          • Posted August 22, 2018 at 10:25 am | Permalink

            Both are true. The GOP enabled Trump but they clearly weren’t prepared for what they unleashed. Without Trump’s stranglehold on GOP voters, his support within GOP congress people would be pretty low. Many of those that willingly support Trump are quickly becoming convicted of their own crimes.

          • Posted August 22, 2018 at 11:50 am | Permalink

            I think you are both correct. Trump is a creation of the GOP – or at least a consequence of their policies – but he is also holding them hostage.

            • GBJames
              Posted August 22, 2018 at 11:52 am | Permalink

              Stockholm syndrome, perhaps. Voluntary hostages.

              • Posted August 22, 2018 at 11:54 am | Permalink

                Not really. They can leave at any time, of course, but Trump will make sure they are primaried out and replaced by a more compliant candidate.

              • GBJames
                Posted August 22, 2018 at 11:59 am | Permalink

                Perhaps we’re just using different definitions of “GOP”. When I use the term I’m referring to the whole shebang including, especially, the funders, propagandists, and party base that does the primary-ing. You seem to refer only to the elected officials.

        • Randy Bessinger
          Posted August 22, 2018 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

          Rush Limbaugh, Levin, and others followed by Hannity and Fox News are the enablers/creators. Throw early Glenn Beck and Alex Jones in for good measure. The hard core Trump supporters only get their news from these sources.

    • Historian
      Posted August 22, 2018 at 8:14 am | Permalink

      Trump holds on to his cult supporters because he represents for them a bulwark against cultural and/or racial decline. He is the leader of white identity politics. Accordingly, his policies and any illegalities created by his crime family mean nothing to them. They psychologically shut out the fact that his policies screw them. This is why they will never abandon him. Rational discourse with them is impossible.

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted August 23, 2018 at 12:51 am | Permalink

        Yeah, they see Trump as the firewall between them and a takeover by the dusky hordes — the only one who can return things to the idealized whites-on-top order they imagine their parents and grandparents thrived under.

        Après Trump, le déluge, is the way they look at it (or would, were they familiar with the reign of Louis XV).

  3. Posted August 21, 2018 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Okay, Trump can have WVA’s 5 electoral votes.

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted August 22, 2018 at 8:22 am | Permalink

      Sure, but let’s hope the Democrats can hang onto Joe Manchin’s seat in the senate.

      • Historian
        Posted August 22, 2018 at 8:40 am | Permalink

        The latest polls show Manchin up by about 10 points.

        https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/west-virginia/

        • Ken Kukec
          Posted August 22, 2018 at 10:37 am | Permalink

          Yeah, I think the Dems have an outside shot at taking the senate this Fall. They have to run the table on the 10 seats they’re defending in red states, and to pick off at least two seats currently held by Republicans. I think they’ve got a good shot at Nevada and maybe Arizona and Tennessee — and possibly even Texas. (God, I’d love to see Beto kick Ted Cruz’s ass!)

          If the Dems don’t at least win the House, this country is fucked. Trump will see it as a complete affirmation of everything he’s doing and will think he’s empowered to do whatever he wants to end the Russia investigation. It will be katy-bar-the-door on the road to authoritarianism.

          • Posted August 22, 2018 at 10:46 am | Permalink

            My fear is that they will be able to rally Trump voters with a “vote Red or Trump is Dead” (impeached) cry. On the other hand, this would remind some that he has committed impeachable crimes and might rally Blue voters as well.

            • Ken Kukec
              Posted August 22, 2018 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

              These midterms are a classic cage-match — only one side can emerge in tact.

              • David Coxill
                Posted August 22, 2018 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

                Have the trade tariffs made any difference to his supporters ?
                There was a report on a British news site that the Soya Bean farmers in the Mid West are starting to feel the effect of his trade war with China .

  4. Merilee
    Posted August 21, 2018 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    To quote Tillerson: effing moron

    • Blue
      Posted August 22, 2018 at 10:20 am | Permalink

      +10

      Blue

  5. Laurance
    Posted August 21, 2018 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    I’m afraid to look. I may get up the courage to watch this video, take a deep breath and click on it. Then again I might not. It really makes me queasy and sick to even look at a picture of him.

    So when I found out about Make America Kittens Again I put it on the computer:

    https://www.boredpanda.com/trump-chrome-extension-make-america-kittens-again/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

    I have Chrome, and I more often use Firefox. There’s a MAKA for Firefox, too.

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/make-firefox-kittens-again/

    These work so-so, but so-so is better than nothing. I really, really hate to look at images of Drumpf.

    All right, all right…I’ll go and look at the video now. If it makes me too sick in the stomach I can always click and turn it off.

    • Laurance
      Posted August 21, 2018 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

      Okay. I looked. It made me sick in the stomach. I had to turn it off. Now I’m going to go look at other things and try to get Frump out of my head for a while.

      • Mark R.
        Posted August 21, 2018 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

        You’re braver than me…

    • David Coxill
      Posted August 22, 2018 at 1:34 am | Permalink

      Don’t you think that is a bit hard on the kitties ?

      • infiniteimprobabilit
        Posted August 22, 2018 at 4:21 am | Permalink

        I agree. Not fair to kittens. How about Make America Cowpats Again?

        (I’m having real trouble thinking of anything appropriately disgusting (and which under no circumstances could be cute) without also being nauseating (because the idea is to spare our eyes, and nauseating is already accounted for). That rules out Make America Tapeworms Again, or Make America Gonorrhea Again.

        Make America Cthulhu again? Hmmm…)

        cr

        • David Coxill
          Posted August 22, 2018 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

          An Orange with a orange wig would save the poor kitties ,will no one think of the kitties?

    • darrelle
      Posted August 22, 2018 at 8:41 am | Permalink

      I think I know precisely how you feel. The fact that Trump is the person who represents my country to the rest of the world is just about too much to bear. If embarrassment and chagrin could kill I’d be dead.

    • Blue
      Posted August 22, 2018 at 10:29 am | Permalink

      I utterly concur, Mr Laurance / All of his commenters under this post of Mr Laurance’s.

      Especially “too sick in the stomach” and
      “a bit hard on the kitties” and “cowpats”
      as in CACA = ‘Consider America Caca Again.’

      Blue

  6. Claudia Baker
    Posted August 21, 2018 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Cringe-worthy alright.

  7. Mark R.
    Posted August 21, 2018 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    I wish the media would just stop covering this insane bullshit. What’s the point? OK, we get it, Trump is a furious, mendacious, unhinged, pathetic human. What’s new to see? Go do some real reporting media! Same goes for Sanders’ daily press briefings. Why continually report her propaganda? What’s the point of the media reporting lies they don’t (for the most part) debunk?

    • GBJames
      Posted August 21, 2018 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

      It is significant that it continues.

      • Mark R.
        Posted August 21, 2018 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

        Yes, but could you imagine the Traitor’s outrage if he lost access? My comment was no means in the stratosphere of reality; I needed to let loose the idea though.

    • Randy Bessinger
      Posted August 22, 2018 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

      Fox will continue to covet…I mean cover him.

  8. Posted August 21, 2018 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    FAKE news!
    If only…

    I was under the impression the US was civilised… sorry, can’t help myself,
    but it is fascinating, as in a study in human behaviour, simply… mostly crazy.
    One lot IS crazy and a fair portion of the rest, is being driven…
    Sorry… I’ll get my hat.

  9. infiniteimprobabilit
    Posted August 21, 2018 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    You know, what’s the betting that if Trump started e.g. putting all Muslims and Latinos in, umm, ‘secure facilities’ (aka concentration camps) because terrorism, the fundamentalist Xtians who have excused everything else he’s done so far would find some reason to excuse that, too? Is there *anything* the psychopathic moron could do that would lose the support of the God-fearing righteous?

    (Well, other than liberalising abortion, gay rights, or enforcing the First Amendment, that is…)

    cr

    • Maryann Schulz
      Posted August 22, 2018 at 10:05 am | Permalink

      “nothing”

  10. Posted August 21, 2018 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    CNN: Manafort found guilty & there is talk of a plea deal with implications on Trump.
    Time for a betting pool?

  11. infiniteimprobabilit
    Posted August 21, 2018 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    I’m not even going to click on that rally.

    I just watched a 20-minute rant (about guess who) by John Oliver instead, I’m sure it was much more coherent and entertaining and hurt my brain far less:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZAPwfrtAFY

    JO noted that composing a sentence by using the predictive text on a phone resulted in just as much sense as the transcript of a Trump mind dump – err, speech.

    cr

    • darrelle
      Posted August 22, 2018 at 9:09 am | Permalink

      That was outstanding.

      • Posted August 22, 2018 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

        I now believe,
        ’cause jesus, that was hilarious!

  12. Posted August 22, 2018 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    He’s had a bad day. One of many to come, I suspect. At his age this must take a toll. Expect him to be more and more outrageous, We ain’t seen nothing yet!

  13. JonLynnHarvey
    Posted August 22, 2018 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Re: “I can’t say what I think of this man because this is a family-oriented website.”

    The secular analogue to Aunt Em in “The Wizard of Oz” saying
    “For 25 years, I wanted to tell you what I thought of you, but being a Christian woman, I can’t say it.”

  14. ThyroidPlanet
    Posted August 22, 2018 at 2:43 am | Permalink

    It’s by design

    He wants to P you off. This is not a consequence of serving a greater good – it’s just to P those types of people off.

    To compare- any other president did things that should aggrieve the other party – but not deliberately, and proudly so.

  15. David Coxill
    Posted August 22, 2018 at 2:56 am | Permalink

    Over on “Dispatches From The Culture Wars ” there is a transcript of a speech he gave at a fund raiser in New York .

    Best bit ,he thinks coal is indestructible .

  16. DutchA
    Posted August 22, 2018 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Trump digs Coal.

    Is she someone like Mrs Stormy Daniels? Just asking for a friend…

    I was incapable of listening 5 minutes. Flag, anthem, respect of the world. Bla. Bla.

    • Posted August 22, 2018 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

      If only his occupation actually was digging coal. Oh, and spraying his beloved asbestos on the timber supports.


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