Saturday: Hili dialogue

by Grania

[Update from Jerry:

News from the pond: Honey seems to have disappeared from the pond again and may be gone for good. I am sad as I didn’t get to say goodbye, and I don’t know if she was ready to migrate.]

[Update of an update: Honey’s back, so reports Anna. More details later. Honestly, this is better than a daytime soapy – Grania]

It’s the birthday of Patrick Swayze (1952-2009), Robert Redford (1936) and lots and lots of footballers: 1980 – Bart Scott, American football player; 1980 – Jeremy Shockey, American football player; 1981 – César Delgado, Argentinian footballer; 1981 – Dimitris Salpingidis, Greek footballer and the list doesn’t stop there.

American trumpet player and bandleader of New Orleans Rhythm Kings Paul Mares died on this day in 1949. His group was an influential jazz band in 1920s Chicago .

More existentialism from Hili this morning.

Hili: What are flies for?
A: This is a badly formulated question.
Hili: You are right. Who finds them tasty?
Hili: Po co są muchy?
Ja: To jest źle postawione pytanie.
Hili: Masz rację. Komu one smakują?

Leon is reorganizing the laws of physics. What a thoughtful cat.

Leon: I will purr a bit while going uphill. It will be lighter for you.

Bits ‘n pieces from Twitter this morning:

Seen on the river Lee in Cork yesterday

Run, Forrest, run!



And a coffee shop that is taking a stand against the oppression of Forin Terms.

London in 1924 apparently

Manchester humor

Parody account so good that it still fools people and news agencies

A joke by a very patient prankster

Waterford Whispers is an Irish parody publication, much like the Onion, but apparently also still fools people on a regular basis. This one is referencing the upcoming and highly controversial visit by the Pope.

Below are some of the reasons why the Pope is less welcome than one would think in a country where over 80% of the population identifies as Catholic.

Hat-tip: Matthew.


  1. Posted August 18, 2018 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Regarding the wonderful index entry for “infinite loop”, an earlier example of the same joke was given in 1981 in Stan Kelly-Bootle’s The Devil’s DP Dictionary (“DP” stands for “data processing”). The entry for “recursive” was “See: recursive”.

    • Serendipitydawg
      Posted August 18, 2018 at 7:11 am | Permalink

      You beat me to it! I came across my copy a few days ago and, somewhat like the Bierce’s original, it is still funny.

    • JB
      Posted August 18, 2018 at 10:14 am | Permalink

      The oldest instance I know of for this gag is in the 1968 1st ed of Knuth’s “The Art of Computer Programming”.

      • Serendipitydawg
        Posted August 18, 2018 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

        I can’t be certain, but I think that one of the typed glossaries for the Manchester MK1 had the same joke, so early 1950’s? I think I downloaded the PDF (which consisted of scannned pages of typescript) back when I was working, so it will be sitting on a pen drive/external hard drive somewhere in my archive.

        Just shows, the old ones are the best 🙂

      • stuartcoyle
        Posted August 18, 2018 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

        This looks to be Knuth related. It’s an index for a book about LaTeX by the look of it. It may well be Knuth.

        • Posted August 19, 2018 at 1:42 am | Permalink

          It’s not Lamport’s “The LaTeX Book”. I checked my copy, and it doesn’t have enough pages. Also, Knuth’s “The TeX Book” has too *many* pages.

          Truly, a mystery.

    • Posted August 18, 2018 at 10:37 am | Permalink

      Since this joke has been repeated, we have a loop within a loop. Remains to be seen whether the outer loop is infinite.

    • mikeyc
      Posted August 18, 2018 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

      The old Sigma chemical catalog had an entry for “Sea water”; See; “Water,Sea”.

      • mikeyc
        Posted August 18, 2018 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

        Wait, no, it was the Merck catalog.

  2. Randall Schenck
    Posted August 18, 2018 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    I’m told it’s getting harder to be a Catholic all the time. Surely not more difficult than being a Trump follower. Evil has many trailing behind.

    • Torbjörn Larsson
      Posted August 18, 2018 at 8:56 am | Permalink

      It’s fun to see how many descriptive terms of the cult one can chain together starting with “P”.

      You reminded me of the other problem they have since I just read cosmologist Ethan Siegel’s list of the universe mass-energy:

      “… we can learn what our Universe is made out of:

      – 68% dark energy, equivalent to a cosmological constant,
      – 27% dark matter,
      – 4.9% normal (protons, neutrons and electrons) matter,
      – 0.1% neutrinos and antineutrinos,
      – about 0.008% photons, and
      – absolutely nothing else, including no curvature, no cosmic strings, no domain walls, no cosmic textures, etc.”

      [ ]

      That “absolutely nothing else” is the current gap size for religion, at least on average and large scales. Made in Nature™, as it were.

      • Randall Schenck
        Posted August 18, 2018 at 9:39 am | Permalink

        Afraid you have zoomed over my head with that one but the investigation in Pennsylvania concerning the child abuse within the Catholic church by more than 300 priests to more than 1000 victims is just the latest. During the 18 month investigation over 2 million documents were reviewed by the grand jury resulting in a 1400 page report. Wonder how many Catholics will be reading this?

    • Nicolaas Stempels
      Posted August 18, 2018 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

      One nearly has pity on the RCC, attacked on all sides and completely disoriented. But only nearly: if you think of the abetting of the abuse and the way it controlled the population the pity vanishes quickly again.

  3. Paul Matthews
    Posted August 18, 2018 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    I’d love to see a goshawk run. Or just see a goshawk. I’ve been birding for 45 years and have yet to get a great view of an adult goshawk. Perhaps I should move to Norway.

    • Nicolaas Stempels
      Posted August 18, 2018 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

      You should come to South Africa, goshawks are quite a common sight here, although the locals have bright red/orange legs. I suspect it is a different species.

      • Paul Matthews
        Posted August 19, 2018 at 6:18 am | Permalink

        Yes, a different species. The bird I have so much trouble seeing is Northern Goshawk (Accipiter gentilis), whereas I believe you are talking about “Chanting Goshawks” (great name!). I just dug out the old field guide I used when I was in Malawi for two years in the mid-80s (visited RSA in 85) and it shows two species of chanting goshawks, both in the genus Melierax (so not even the same genus as my “nemesis bird”, at least at that time–the taxonomy may have changed since). I saw the more northerly Dark Chanting Goshawk (Melierax metabates).

        I’ll keep my eyes peeled for my bird (while not holding my breath!).

  4. Posted August 18, 2018 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Not wishing to spoil the excellent “infinite loop” joke, but anyone who has ever had to typeset a paper or a book containing a lot of mathematics will recognise this as TeX (it rhymes with “blecchhh!”), the scientific typesetting language created by Stanford computer science professor Donald Knuth back in the 1970s. TeX makes it very easy to generate indexes automatically. This joke is the work of someone who knows TeX, maybe even Knuth himself, since the index seems to come from a book about TeX.

  5. DrBrydon
    Posted August 18, 2018 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    The old Milestone album “New Orleans Rhythm Kings and Jelly Roll Morton” was one of the first records I bought (as opposed to swiping from my parents). All their recordings are good, but my favorite these days is “Sobbin’ Blues.”

    • Hempenstein
      Posted August 18, 2018 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

      I love that tune too but hadn’t heard that version, which sounds a bit up-tempo vs. the (Danish) Peruna Jazzmen who I think sound more blues-y. Bonus: a whole minute of great slide-whistle!

  6. JonLynnHarvey
    Posted August 18, 2018 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Although best known for playing teenage heart-throbs, Patrick Swayze was marvelous as a sleazy cult leader in “Donnie Darko”

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted August 18, 2018 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

      And a drag queen in To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar.

      Though maybe he was a teenage-heartthrob there, too, just for a different group of teenagers. 🙂

  7. Achrachno
    Posted August 18, 2018 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Ducks seem indecisive.

  8. Hempenstein
    Posted August 18, 2018 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    That lion cub sounds like a hunter’s duck call.

    (Oops! Maybe I shouldn’t mention duck hunting around here.)

  9. infiniteimprobabilit
    Posted August 19, 2018 at 5:45 am | Permalink

    Love that sign explaining coffee.

    It’s a bit ironic that it’s on “You Had One Job”, which is a site dedicated to celebrating cock-ups, since this sign is the antithesis of that.


  10. HRG
    Posted August 19, 2018 at 6:10 am | Permalink

    Reminds me of an entry in the Data Processing Devil’s Dictionary:

    Recursive, adj.: see recursive.

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