Sweet Ceiling Cat: Not another shooting!

It’s been just a few days since the Florida shooting occurred, and now this breaking news (click on screenshot):

There are no reports save that the school is locked down and the police are setting up a perimeter.

Let’s hope it’s a false report, or that nobody was hurt if it was a real attack, but I’m not optimistic.


  1. Posted February 16, 2018 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Ain’t America great?

  2. glen1davidson
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Maybe this time it was firecrackers.

    My thoughts and prayers, well, don’t really matter (no actual prayers).

    Glen Davidson

    • Posted February 16, 2018 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

      What else doesn’t matter: “What Were the Warning Signs?” On this one, apparently the FBI and another agency had detailed tips and threats. Neither was acted on.

      Add to that the word “regret.” One public official who siad in response to not acting on the specific tips “I regret the error.”

      • Posted February 27, 2018 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

        What could they actually do? Say, a student reports a weird classmate who got an F and said he would bomb/shoot the school, and based on this report, the 2nd student is locked up for good?

  3. Posted February 16, 2018 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    There was a good report and discussion from the Florida shooting on NPR, including a day by day account of all reported school shootings in the U.S. over a couple weeks.
    Pretty much every day there is at least one somewhere.

    • darrelle
      Posted February 16, 2018 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

      Maybe we should let all students carry guns to school so they can protect themselves. Shit, let’s just offer each kid a mini-14 & 2 mags as they enter campus each morning.

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted February 16, 2018 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

        Frisk ’em, and unless they’re strapped, refuse ’em entry. School: come heavy or don’t come at all.

  4. Posted February 16, 2018 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    I see that Richard Dawkins is recovering his form on Twitter:

    “There there, I do understand, taking away your guns is like taking away your Comfort Blanky. You’ll feel bereaved. Tell you what, though. We know how to deal with bereavement. We’ll send you our thoughts and prayers. Then you’ll feel better.”

    • darrelle
      Posted February 16, 2018 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

      Damn. That’s quite good.

      • nicky
        Posted February 17, 2018 at 4:57 am | Permalink

        Quite good? Lovely understatement!
        Moreover, it gives a good estimate of the mental age of those gun-nuts.

    • mordacious1
      Posted February 16, 2018 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

      I wonder if Richard has ever lived in rural Oklahoma, where police response times can be up to 30 minutes and citizens are expected to defend their own families in the meantime? Or in rural Alaska, where grizzlies can walk up to your house?

      Not every place in America is as safe and cozy as Oxford. Or Berkeley, CA. Sometimes we have a myopic view of the world and make judgments based on how we live.

      • Posted February 16, 2018 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

        You know, I don’t particularly want to take away anyone’s rifles or shotguns, even their handguns. But semi-automatic rifles, bump stocks, and of course automatic weapons? Yes.

        You’ll still have plenty left to protect yourself with.

      • nicky
        Posted February 17, 2018 at 2:10 am | Permalink

        Where have I heard about Alaska, where those grizzlies kill dozens of children on a regular basis?

  5. sensorrhea
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to Jebus the “Thoughts and Prayers Calculator” is always standing by ready to help our leaders maximize the effectiveness of their response.


  6. Posted February 16, 2018 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Don’t blame Florida lawmakers! They do make people buying guns at dealerships fill out a form saying they have no mental health problems, and how could they ever have foreseen that someone might lie about that?

  7. busterggi
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Livin’ in America…

  8. ladyatheist
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    I checked google news after seeing this and there have been a lot of hoax & copycat threats all over the country. 3 in Cincinnati alone!

  9. Randall Schenck
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Making all this noise about mental health with gun regulation is just a waste of time. As if we could even begin to spot all the people with mental problems.

    Gun regulation should be very simple but then nothing in this land is ever simple. I have heard a lot of noise about regulation on the news but not one common sense thing that comes right to the top of the list. Ban all sales and ownership of the assault weapons. If you need a definition of these lets just say anything that looks like an assault military weapon, has a magazine that holds more than 5 bullets or a short barrel, less than 30 inches. No one needs to be manufacturing these guns or selling them or owning them. Next we will start on hand guns and yes, nobody needs a hand gun.

    • mordacious1
      Posted February 16, 2018 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

      So, if it looks scary to you, it should be banned? Got it.

      • Randall Schenck
        Posted February 16, 2018 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

        I do not see any of this as a joke. Scary is for some child, is that what you are? You seem to follow people around on line and make smart ass comments but it is far from any intelligence. Going back to just the 1990s these assault weapons were against the law but the NRA and all their friends in the republican party fixed that. You do understand that the NRA is nothing but a lobby for the manufacturers don’t you? Nothing funny about that.

        Please take your comments elsewhere as I do not welcome any of your smart mouth.

        • mordacious1
          Posted February 16, 2018 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

          Based on the rules Jerry has laid down, I won’t respond to this comment, other than to suggest you take a chill pill, bud. (Pro tip: Not everyone in life is going to agree with you)

          • Randall Schenck
            Posted February 17, 2018 at 9:02 am | Permalink

            Please understand, I am not your bud. This is just a continuation of the infantile behavior that makes one so popular. If Jerry Coyne did not have rules you could just be yourself on line.

            • mordacious1
              Posted February 17, 2018 at 10:35 am | Permalink

              (Rolls eyes)

      • Posted February 27, 2018 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

        It IS scary. It kills people. To me, it is a bad system to allow everybody and their brothers to carry firearms around, and then tell me that I need to carry one as well to protect myself, and to have eyes on my back.

  10. David Coxill
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    I read that some people in FL are starting to demand gun control ,don’t know how many more shootings it is going to take before something is done.

  11. glen1davidson
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Since we have reason to hope that the Highline “shooting” didn’t happen, here’s a bit on the Florida shooting:

    The FBI said a caller had provided the bureau with “information about Cruz’s gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts” on Jan. 5.

    But because of a lapse in procedure, the bureau said, the information was “not provided” to its regional field office in Miami and “no further investigation was conducted at that time.”


    I’m sure plenty have heard about this, but especially non-USAians might not have. Certainly sounds like a lost opportunity.

    Glen Davidson

    • Posted February 27, 2018 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

      Is there really a procedure to take away firearms from owners who behave erratically and threaten to shoot?

  12. gravelinspector-Aidan
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Just before I saw notice of Jerry’s posting here, I was counting on my fingers, modelling a random distribution mean of 60 hours for the time between US (well, global) school mass shootings. The big unknown was the time of day that the last one happened. But I estimated a 50%+ probability of the next shooting before Saturday night, and higher than 75% + by Sunday night. I’m not quite sure how to model for the closing of schools over the weekend, but I don’t know how long they’re open for sports, homework clubs etc over the weekends.
    It’s depressing that first-term statistics are adequate in such a data-rich field. It would be better if you had to be very careful with your modelling.
    No new news on the UK 21:00 GMT news. Well, not so far anyway.

  13. Posted February 16, 2018 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    The Highline College report of a shooting has apparently turned out to be a false alarm. No shooter, no shots, no casualties.

    In other news, a grandmother in our state found disturbing entries in her grandson’s diary about planning to carry out a mass shooting. She called 911, showed police the diary, and the grandson was arrested at his school.

  14. Harrison
    Posted February 16, 2018 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    I had the misfortune of hearing some blithering idiot on Fox (apologies for the redundancy) who had invited a guest on to make a case for gun control. The woman immediately conflated his sensible call for more stringent background checks and licensing with wanting to spend millions of dollars to go into every home in America and confiscate everybody’s guns. And because this straw position that nobody was proposing would be unfeasible we should do nothing.

  15. nicky
    Posted February 17, 2018 at 5:08 am | Permalink

    There is a simple and well established truth: gun related deaths are correlated to the number of guns in circulation.
    The contortions of the NRA reminiscent of the contortions of the tobacco industry at the time, or the contortions of the gasoline and lead industry (note that Clair Cameron Patterson not only drew attention to the high levels of lead in the environment, he is also the one that calculated the age of the Earth to be about 4.5 billion years, two great achievements for one scientist!), or the contortions of the fossil fuel industry re Global Warming. Or even the contortions of the Ctrl-left about ‘blank slates’.

  16. Mike
    Posted February 17, 2018 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    According to an article from October of last year:

    Since the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, the U.S. has seen 1,518 acts of gun violence in which at least four people were wounded or killed, according to the Gun Violence Archive website. That’s nearly one mass shooting a day for the 1,754 days since the shocking slaughter of the Connecticut kids.

    According to a New York Times piece from today – February 15, 2018 – “there have been at least 239 school shootings nationwide. In those incidents, 438 people were shot, 138 of whom were killed.”

    In 2018 we’ve already had eighteen mass shootings.

    And Nothing Has Changed.

    Read more at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/suspendedinherjar/2018/02/yes-gun-problem/#sfg6022e3Qc3rGi1.99


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