My political profile: how Leftist am I (or are you)?

You’ve surely heard the old saying, “If you are not a liberal at 25, you have no heart; if you’re not a conservative at 35, you have no brain.” The antecedents of the quote go back to 1875, but when I was younger I thought this was a horrible quote. I would never, I vowed, become a conservative.  And I don’t think I have, though I’ve been accused of being “alt-right”, of helping Trump get elected because I criticized Hillary, and so on.

Still, I worry that I might lose the liberal ideals I had when I was younger, especially now when I spend a lot of time on this site criticizing what I see as the maladaptive excesses of the Left. I told Grania I was worried about this, and she proposed that I locate my position on the political compass. When you go to that site, you’re directed to a six-page list of what seem to be pretty good questions, like these:

I thought very hard before answering them, and, when I was done, I was given this as my position on the two-axis political spectrum:

Well, I’m pretty Left, where is where I thought I’d be, and I’m glad to see I’m more libertarian than authoritarian; in fact, I’m just as libertarian as I am Leftist.  I’m satisfied with this, though of course I don’t know much about the Political Compass. Readers might want to take the test for themselves, see where they place, and report the results below. In fact, I’ll make a poll to help, but add a comment below if you think the answer is close to where you figured.

 

229 Comments

  1. Genghis
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    When I’ve done this test before then I’m a similar amount left but closer to the middle of the authoritarian/libertarian spectrum. I suspect that’s due to cultural differences between the UK and the USA which is generally more libertarian.

  2. Gary Allan
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    -5.13, -3.69

  3. notsecurelyanchored
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Left Libertarian, but less than you.

  4. Yvonne Wilder
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Interesting survey. I’m
    Economic Left/Right: -5.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

  5. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    I came out just a nudge more leftist and a nudge more libertarian than you did Jerry.

    No wonder I like your site! 🙂

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

      I just looked for the graphic and went right past the numbers:

      Economic Left/Right: -5.63
      Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.44

      • Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

        I guess by the numbers I’m slightly LESS Libertarian than you are Jerry.

        • Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

          I wouldn’t read much into small differences. It could just be a dislike of abstract art.

  6. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Hmmm, my chart appears to correlate precisely with Professor Emeritus Ceiling Cat’s. Numerically, a tad further both left and libertarian: -5.38 and -5.54.

  7. prinzler
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    -4.88, -4.77

  8. GBJames
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    I’m one unit less authoritarian and one unit more left than you, PCC. This calls for a schism!

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

      What will you name it? 🙂

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

      Die, heretic!

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

      That’s where I landed, too.

  9. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -7.13
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33

  10. BobTerrace
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    -5.88, -6.1

    And a comment: Left and Libertarian should be top and right so those numbers should be positive 😊

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

      True Left/Lib.’s dont’t need any kind of magical number thinking! They are very familiar with the dialectical perspective 🙂

  11. sgo
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Economic -5.63, Social -7.38

    As always, these compact tests have difficulties in defining subtle areas (to me, at least). That noted, for a lot of the questions about personal opinions I answered strongly, whereas for economics, I think I was more in the agree/disagree camp (meaning, not answering many questions with strongly).

    • BobTerrace
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

      I also had difficulty answering strongly or not many times

    • GBJames
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

      I also found myself “arguing” with the question… There are a lot of different ways to interpret many of them.

    • E.A. Blair
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

      These questions leave you with no possibility of “No Opinion”. I ended up having to “Agree” or “Disagree” with a couple of issues I am really on the fence about.

      • eliz20108
        Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

        I agree with E.A. Blair. I wanted “No Opinion” on several issues.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

      Well, it’s little more than what was once called a parlor game; a strictly accurate summary is not the goal.

    • bbenzon
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

      Agreed. I had relatively few “strongly” answers, regardless of valence.

  12. John Thorne
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    I’m a bit more of a lefty than you are, it seems:

    Economic Left/Right: -6.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87

  13. mfdempsey1946
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left-Right: -7.0.

    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.15.

    • John Taylor
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

      Oh my!

  14. Colin Campbell
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Interesting! I was rather surprised by the graph of uk political
    Parties.
    -7.75
    -6.46

    • David Coxill
      Posted January 31, 2018 at 2:05 am | Permalink

      So was i ,i am nearer Green than Labour .

  15. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    My Dad was a founding member of the Minnesota Conservative Union. (He was a great guy; just ignore the politics.)

    I started out just repeating what he told us. Until I was mid-way through high school and starting to actually think about it (this was the mid-1970s).

    Then I became very liberal and have remained quite liberal since (and I am getting rather aged now, as you can tell from that time-line.) Though I am less liberal than I was as a early-20-something.

    I think having traveled a great deal around the world and read very widely, I find people are pretty much the same everywhere (and, as the lady in Australia told me: “Thayze dickheads everywhere” too). I see no strong correlation between things like race, sexual orientation, class, etc. and the things I think mark a quality person; a person I like to associate with. (Religion and culture on the other hand …)

  16. E.A. Blair
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    I ended up more extreme than I expected:

    Economic Left/Right: -8.5
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.05

    Of course I might have misinterpreted some of the questions. The thing to do is wait a day and take it again.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

      If they are all positive 8s tomorrow, you have DID.

  17. David Evans
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    I’m 3 squares to the left of you, which does not surprise me. I think it’s pretty accurate.

  18. Mike Anderson
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Abstract art is a liberal thing? I didn’t know that.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

      Yeah, that one really struck me too. Huh?!

      I often don’t care for Abstract Art (but some of it I love!), and I sometimes think the stuff that pretentiously passes for art these days isn’t.

      But I could not answer that question as “Agree”.

      • Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

        I felt the same way. I like some few paintings, for example the works of Wassily Kandinsky, (the reproduction of two of his pictures were pinned in my childhood on the wall infront of the kitchen table, so I literally grew up while eating meals watching his paintings)
        but otherwise I am mostly bored with abstract “art”.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

      I think it correlates but I don’t think it’s a direct indicator of liberalism.

      I certainly don’t think there’s anything Left-wing about Damien Hurst flogging a jewelled skull for £50M. The art world is no less profit-oriented than the music industry.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

      I didn’t like the question too.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

      My guess is it’s a fossilized question from the 1970s, to catch out a particular type of person who would say “I don’t know anything about art, but I know what I like,” and probably never really existed.

    • Walt Jones
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

      I think it relates to being more accepting of new ideas.

  19. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    I am a centrist libertarian (1.38, -4.31), but I already knew that.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

      I look pretty right-wing here, but I think it is because I didn’t bite on the anti-corporation bait.

    • John Taylor
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

      -1.26, -6.25 here so you have some company. I think we’re in Steven Pinker territory.

  20. Diana MacPherson
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    I’m slightly more left and slightly more social libertarian but pretty close.

    • Diana MacPherson
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

      -6.5 and -5.74

  21. Ugo
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    -3.1
    -3.3

    • Helen
      Posted January 31, 2018 at 1:35 am | Permalink

      -3.25
      -3.69

  22. Steve Pollard
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Economic: -5.88
    Social: -6.05

    I agree with some commenters above: I was more likely to answer “strongly” for the social questions than the economic ones. Indeed, for the latter I sometimes found myself partly agreeing and partly disagreeing.

    An interesting exercise. I know nothing about the political compass; but I’m not sure how much reliance to put on an organisation that has Reich, Eysenck and Adorno as its gurus.

  23. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    I once realized that the pol. comp. test ought to include also a revolutionary/evolutionary axis. I wrote to them to suggest this, and got no answer.

  24. Heather Hastie
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Economic left/right -6.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -7.79

  25. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    -2.63
    -6.62

  26. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -8.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.72

    Somewhere between Pyotr Kropotkin and Emma Goldman.

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

      Welcome to the Spartacus League, comrade!

  27. fjordaniv
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -7.13
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

      My result was almost exactly the same:

      Economic Left/Right: -7.13
      Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87

      At this writing 92% of us seem to belong in the left/libertarian corner. Can’t say I’m surprised.

  28. Patrick Foley
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    We appear to be identical twins politically, although I am more Irish.

    • Patrick Foley
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

      Specifically:
      Economic Left/Right: -4.5
      Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

      … as Paddy’s pig, as Mam used to say.

  29. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -7.0
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.0

  30. craigp
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -0.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.46

    Pretty close to where I expected – just slightly left of centre and moderately libertarian.

    • craigp
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

      Wow, I’m almost right-wing compared with many on here. I answered hardly any of the questions with “Strongly agree/disgree”. Partly because some of the questions were not especially clear and most lacked any context which could easily have changed my answer.

      • Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

        Wait until Craw clocks in.

        • Craw
          Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

          A tad right of center (3) economics. Might be related to the fact I can state the fundamental theorems of welfare economics…

  31. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    My current results:
    Economic Left/Right: -6.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13

    I took this “test” a few years back but I couldn’t find the results so I took it again. I think I’m becoming more middle Leftist Libertarian than I used to be.

  32. Curt Nelson
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    I came out where Gandhi did. I’m like Gandhi.

    The question about unemployment versus inflation… I had no idea, but still I had to agree or disagree at least.

    • Adam M.
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

      Yeah, they’re both important to control. It’s not too helpful to have low inflation if everyone’s out of work (though you would starve more slowly), but it’s also not very good to be employed if your money rapid becomes worthless.

      But I guess having some money to fill your wheelbarrow is still better than having none. 🙂

      • Richard
        Posted January 31, 2018 at 3:57 am | Permalink

        Not necessarily. I recall a TV documentary called “The Year That Money Went Mad” about the hyper-inflation that the Weimar Republic suffered: a woman related how she and her sister had gone out shopping with a laundry basket filled with bank-notes, had put the basket down on the pavement (that’s sidewalk to you USAians) whilst looking in the window of a shop outside which there was a queue (so it actually had something to sell!) and turned back to find the money still there but the basket gone. So the basket was worth more than the zillions of paper marks it had contained… Keep an eye on your wheelbarrow.

        —-

        I also had trouble with the question about a single-party state being more efficient than a democracy. It may possibly be true, but I don’t think it’s a good idea.

        • David Coxill
          Posted January 31, 2018 at 10:18 am | Permalink

          In the story i heard it was a baby’s pram .

          Another example ,one gentleman received a letter from his bank closing his account and giving him a cheque for the many millions of marks in his former account .

          The stamp on the envelope was worth more than the cheque

        • Posted February 5, 2018 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

          No, it is not true. Been there.

    • nicky
      Posted January 31, 2018 at 12:06 am | Permalink

      Yeah, I found that a tough one too, a little bit of inflation is a good thing, I guess, but hyperinflation is disastrous.
      On the other hand, we would only like to see very little unemployment. I voted for employment there, but I think that both are important.

      • Posted February 5, 2018 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

        I do not see any benefits in the little bit of inflation, except that it deceives savers that their assets are increasing.

    • Glenda Palmer
      Posted January 31, 2018 at 12:30 am | Permalink

      +1 I decided to agree with looking after unemployment but I imagine in reality the government would have to strike a delicate balance.

  33. Ryan
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    I’m a Canadian who also scored Libretarian Left Wing.

    Oddly enough, I find it much easier to sympathize with the US right than the US left. (Or at least with their publicized positions.)

  34. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    I’m relieved to see that I’m still a leftist.

    Economic Left/Right: -6.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87

    The UK graph is surprising — so many right wing authoritarians on the authoritarian left!

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

      There’s a strong correlation between Labour being right-wing authoritarian and actually in power.

      However, I’d dispute the notion that Jeremy Corbyn is in anyway libertarian.

  35. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -3.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

    Phew that was a relief, biggest fear? turning out to be a arse.
    Noise from the upstairs… the court is out on that one!

  36. Neil Wolfe
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    I take this “test” every few years to see how my views change over time. I’ve been orbiting Ghandhi in the lower left quadrant so there hasn’t been much of a shift in my views over the last decade or so.

  37. Sebastian
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Libertarian Left.
    Almost identical score to Dr. Coyne’s – no wonder I usually can’t find much to disagree with him… 🙂
    -4.1/-5.4

  38. Randall Schenck
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    I believe we are pretty close on this:

    Economic Left/Right -5.5
    Social Libertarian/Ath -4.5

    I suspect age plays some part in this as well.

  39. Charles Sawicki
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Interesting that WEIT has followers who are almost all left/libertarian. As with other social media, following those who agree with you! I like WEIT a lot, but this sort of flocking of those who think alike is not good for democracy.
    Mine: Left 7.5, Libertarian 5.1.

  40. Michael Fisher
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    I’m in the Stalin quadrant [top, left]
    -1, +1

    • nicky
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

      Lonely there? 🙂

      • nicky
        Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

        To be honest, sounds pretty centrist to me.

        • Michael Fisher
          Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

          Plenty of room for my deckchair & beer cooler. I ended up here probably because I think land shouldn’t be a commodity owned by individuals or companies. I also worry that the big boys [Amazon etc] will spawn a Weyland Corp world – my progeny’s [sp?] progeny etc as eternal salary-serfs with no power to change anything.

          • nicky
            Posted January 31, 2018 at 12:08 am | Permalink

            I also see you have 9 companions now, with more ‘votes’ in. 🙂

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

      Time for a purge. Can we disappear comrade Michael from the Moscow canal photo?

      • Michael Fisher
        Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

        I’ll have to switch dachas!

        Martin Cruz Smith’s fictional Moscow militsaya investigator Arkady Renko’s 8-book series: excellent reads if you enjoy cold war paranoia & dread told from a Russian perspective. If it’s your gig start with Gorky Park. Grim as a Soviet tower block.

        • David Coxill
          Posted January 31, 2018 at 10:25 am | Permalink

          Didn’t know he wrote 8 novels about Arkady Renko .

          Only other book of his i have read was Nighwing .

      • Craw
        Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

        One of my favorites. I used it just the other day!

  41. nicky
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    There were several questions where I would have said: neutral, but that was not an option.
    Economic Left/Right: -6.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.0
    Which is weird, since I consider myself quite an economical conservative, and a social libertarian.

    Apparently most of us (>92%), at least of those that voted, fall in the left libertarian square, which rises the question: are we -or is this site- not an echo-chambre?

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

      Of course it is, but it’s a good one, it’s like a home for our thoughts. And to feel at home, one needs a kind of echoing of oneself. One cannot always live outside, in the land of hostile thinking.

      • nicky
        Posted January 31, 2018 at 12:09 am | Permalink

        Yes, you have a point there.

  42. Paul S
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    More libertarian than left
    Economic Left/Right: – 4
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13

  43. Christopher
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    7.5, 7.28, which I would say is pretty damn liberal and pretty damn libertarian. In some ways, that is surprising, as I don’t call or consider myself libertarian. I do wonder which questions skewed me that direction. Eh, whatever.

  44. Posted January 30, 2018 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    I’m no less left wing and libertarian than I was twenty years ago.

    My only movement is along the optimism-despair axis.

  45. Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -5.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

  46. Jacques Hausser
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    A wee more libertarian and slightly more to the left than Jerry, but I stupidly closed the window without looking at the numbers…
    Before running the test, I was considering myself more centrist than that!

  47. Adam M.
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Economic Libertarian: -5.25
    Social Libertarian: -2.72 (but not as much as many people here)

    I think corporations need regulation to keep them acting in the public interest, but I do believe there are savages in the world and our savagery is better than their savagery. 😛

  48. Malcolm
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    I was almost exactly where I thought I would be – -7.38,-7.69 which on the printable certificate places directly on Chomsky. I have no issues with this. As I am from the UK i would expect nearly all UK citizens to somewhere in this quadrant which looks to far to the right on the Overton Window due to the American bias of its creators. Even the Democrats look right wing to the UK.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

      If most Brits are in the lower left quadrant why are all our governments in the top right?

      • Craw
        Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

        I wonder if Thatcher, Hitler, Stalin, or Mao really took the test.

        Remember: all survey science is bogus until proven otherwise. As mikeyc says, it’s more of a conversation prod than a calibrated test.

        • Posted February 1, 2018 at 11:59 am | Permalink

          Yeah, I wouldn’t put too much stock of their plotting of public figures’ scores, particularly *dead ones*.

  49. Simon Hayward
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    -3.75, -5.28 which is a little further left than I would have guessed. Like some other folks, I had a bunch of questions where I was either somewhat ambivalent or questioning.

  50. Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: 0.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36

    I’d pegged myself as a bit more to the right than that, but I guess I was wrong. Also thought I would be lower on the libertarian/authoritarian scale.

  51. David Jorling
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Economic -2.75
    Social -4.92

  52. Ken Kukec
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Absolute moderate centrist.

    (Really? No, not really.)

    Economic: -4.0
    Social: -5.95

  53. eric
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -2.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

    Looks like I’m equivalently socially liberal as PCC but a bit more economically centrist.

  54. Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Jerry! And everybody else!

    You must get the free, suitable-for-framing, color certificate!

    • barn owl
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

      LOL @ the mirror-image caricatures of Trump and Mussolini. Also LOL @ Ayn Rand.

      • Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

        Ayn was my favorite!

        • barn owl
          Posted January 30, 2018 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

          She looks like a crabby, sleep-deprived frogmouth.

  55. Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -4.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

  56. BobTerrace
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    What would it be like to be a person who scored 0, 0? Casper Milktoast? Unable to make a decision?

    • danstarfish
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

      I was left libertarian, but disturbingly close to the center. I didn’t quite expect that.

  57. davidintoronto
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Economic: -7.75
    Social: -6.15

  58. Posted January 30, 2018 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -8.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59

    More in the corner than I thought. But I agree that the lack of a “neutral” option can create bias. Also, I gave some of the questions their most generous interpretation.

  59. Ken Kukec
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Just went through the comments and checked the survey results.

    Whadda buncha pinkos we got round here.

  60. denise
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: –7.0
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

    I don’t know about this.

    I did not read anything at the site, so maybe my definition of libertarian is different from theirs, but I have a hard time seeing myself as a libertarian. I favor heavy business regulation, gun control, zoning, compulsory vaccination, seat belt laws, redistributive taxation, mandatory social insurance programs, immigration law, compulsory education – most of the things, in fact, that hardcore libertarians oppose. I don’t even oppose the War on Drugs as a matter of principle, although I do on other grounds.

    I guess some of these things would be reflected in their economic scale, but I don’t get how far out they’ve placed me on that axis either; there’s not much room to the left to separate me from a Communist, although I’m very, very far from being one.

  61. naveen1941
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    This does not make sense. To be on the left side of the spectrum is not authoritarian but libertarian????? I should add more question marks. The story of twentieth is resplendent with examples contrary to this misguided proposition.The most authoritarians have come from the left. Only three countries have actively fought wars from the right (Germany, Italy and Japan) and quickly they lost- one of them was even nuclear bombed. The countries on the left are greater in number and committed more mass murders than the others. USSR, China, and Cuba stand out. India under Nehru and his daughter went socialist and the results were quite authoritarian. I believe both left and right as defined by the White man are equally authoritarian. This is my two cents.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

      The spectrum allows for authoritarians of either stripe. The quiz has questions that try to separate the two axes.

      It just happens that most of us (readers) are both left and libertarian.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

      Check at 19 and at 40.

    • Tim Harris
      Posted January 31, 2018 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

      I think you need to distinguish things within what is known as the left and not assume that the ‘Left’ is a monolith. The British Labour Party (which grew out of the trades unions and ‘owed more to Methodism than to Marx’) and the German Social Democratic Party, for example, are, and always have been, far from being authoritarian in the manner of the Communist parties in Russia and elsewhere.

      And what on earth do you mean by ‘both right and left as defined by the White man are equally authoritarian’?

  62. Dick Veldkamp
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    -9.13, -7.18.

    Is that a record?

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

      Is that even still on the chart?

      You look to be the bullgoose leftie around here.

      • W.Benson
        Posted January 30, 2018 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

        Congratulations!

        • Dick Veldkamp
          Posted January 31, 2018 at 2:18 am | Permalink

          I tend to agree with Denise (60, above).

          The definition of “libertarian” does not seem to fit, or at least is counterintuitive.

          I associate libertarianism with people who want almost zero government, minimal taxation. no gun control and so on (nonsense positions if you ask me). Maybe we should take “libertarian” here to only refer to things like drug use and same-sex marriage, i.e. freedom in the personal sphere.

          I’ll see if I have the time to make a scatterplot today. 😉

  63. alexandra Moffat
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    No surprise-I am a hair more libertarian than you, JC, but like most of your readers, right there in the green.
    There should have been an “unsure” category but that would have diluted the whole “test”.

  64. Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Economic L/R -1.75
    SocLib/Auth -7.54
    About right for me

  65. Steven in Tokyo
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -7.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33

    I wanted a ‘no opinion’ option for some of the questions. With others I wanted to ask what they really meant. The religion/morality ones were all very easy, though!

  66. Thanny
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    It’s not a fantastic test, because many of the statements have oodles of room for interpretation, and use words like “always” or “sometimes” inappropriately (i.e. nothing is ever “always”, and nothing is never “sometimes”, but you can’t choose a response based on that).

    I’ve taken it a few times, and always end up at about -5, -5, though it varies a bit based on how I end up interpreting a particular statement at the time.

    It also fails to squarely touch on a number of areas that are quite important, such as freedom of speech.

  67. barn owl
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Economic -8.63
    Social -6.72

    Near Chomsky, Sanders, and Kropotkin.

    • Posted February 1, 2018 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

      From what I can tell they exaggerate Sanders then. (Somewhere I think I saw Chomsky explain that – not with reference to the test, but comparing himself to S.)

  68. darrelle
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -5.0
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72

    That seems to be in the ball park for me.

    I think that by “Social Libertarian” they mean what non-USians would think of that term rather than what most USians mean by it. In the US the term Libertarian has changed meaning quite a bit. While I do occasionally encounter USians that self identify as Libertarian and express views that would give them a score on this test similar to mine (I think of them as old school Libertarians), most self identified Libertarians I run across in the US these days would surely fall in the mid to high Authoritarian range on this test.

    By the comments so far it seems the test may be fairly accurate but I was unimpressed with many of the questions. It seemed to me that the questions often weren’t aimed at thinking people but were rather more like a sampling of standard “liberal” and “conservative” stereotypical talking points laid out as bait. In several instances the questions assumed things that I don’t even agree are a given.

  69. Jason
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    I think the way some of the questions are worded are biasing my answers toward the left. Some of the questions assert a universal truth, and I had to click disagree even though I partially or mostly agree with it. For example, “What’s good for the most successful corporations is always, ultimately, good for all of us.” I wouldn’t say always, bust most of the time.

    “All Authority should be questioned.”
    I don’t think any authority should be immune from criticism, but I think there are many forms of authority are necessary.

    Their placement of some governments and leaders seem very strange to me. They had Donald Trump slightly further left on economics than Clinton. Does anyone really think that’s true?
    They have Emmanuel Macron, the president of France, as a 9 on economics. I know he is pushing some free market policies, but that seems pretty extreme.
    They have the government of Sweden at about 7.5, 3.5, roughly the same place they had Bush in ’04.

  70. Mark Reaume
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -4.0
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.26

    A little more social libertarian than I would have guessed.

  71. borderline
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Some criticisms of the test.

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_Compass

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

      Rationalwiki (sic) has such strong ideological bias that, IMO, it is not a reliable source of criticism.

      • danstarfish
        Posted January 30, 2018 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

        I second that. Rationalwiki can be useful to find out something about an ideologue that you haven’t heard of before, but it really is one group of idealogues opinion about the other idealogues out there. They have a fairly consisten bias though and often tell you the significant controversies which helps you find more info to get an informed opinion.

        • Dick Veldkamp
          Posted January 31, 2018 at 3:03 am | Permalink

          In their criticism of the test, I think they hit the nail on the head though.

      • borderline
        Posted January 31, 2018 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

        The same blanket statement might be made about your responses to various issues. What specific criticism of the test do you object to?

  72. Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    A bit closer to the center
    Economic Left/Right: -4.0
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.33
    As with all such tests, the questions often lacked nuance. I’m not going to read too much into these results.

  73. cnocspeireag
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    I think of myself as fairly middle-of-the-road.Do we really have such a majority of arseholes to skew things so far?

    Economic Left/Right: -5.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

      * Oh, that didn’t work. To make things clearer:

      Eco -5.75

      Soc -7.74

      Which is about where I usually land on this.

      /@

  74. Neil Wolfe
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s interesting to take the test with the goal of producing an outcome in a specific quadrant. Trying to imagine how Stalin would answer is a challenge. I suppose if thinking like Stalin came easy to me, I’d be a little concerned.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

      Many of the questions are quite leading, so I don’t think it would be that difficult to pick any particular place in the quadrants.

      • Neil Wolfe
        Posted January 30, 2018 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

        Were you able to do it?

        • Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

          Well, I wasn’t far off. Guessing what Ol’ Uncle Joe might think, and following the lead of the questions (some are very leading), I got;

          Economic Left/Right: -6.13
          Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 5.79

          That’s two squares diagonally to the South East from Uncle Joe.

          • Neil Wolfe
            Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

            Well done Comrade!

  75. Kosmos
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    I’m surprised at how far economic left most commenters are. Even though I’m from “socialist” Scandinavia I ended up in the middle. Then again, I’m not a hippie flower power biologist. 🙂

    It can of course partly be explained by different frames of comparison. Comparing results on tests like this across countries and cultures is treacherous.

  76. Fred M
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Like others, I think that a possibility to answer each question on a scale 1-10 would have given more accurate results.

    Economic -7.25
    Social -6.41

  77. Michael
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    I, too,, have always thought that the “old saying” that you quote is wrong and bothersome, as if there is some proper trajectory for the evolution of ones world view. Tomorrow I turn 71, and I’m still firmly left-libertarian. Maybe more firmly than ever:
    -7.88 -7.13

  78. Alan Clark
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    -6.25, -4.97

  79. W.Benson
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    I scored about -5 on both scales.
    I wonder in what sense the poll uses the term “Libertarian”. I am very favorable to government control over big business, high rates of taxation, etc., and I indicated these ‘authoritarian’ beliefs in my responses, yet received a high score for “Libertarian”. What goes? Am I using the wrong dictionary?

    • Posted February 1, 2018 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

      Yes, you’re using the American dictionary. 🙂

  80. mehulhshah
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -6.13
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.44

  81. Jake Sevins
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Not at all surprising to see 90%+ readers in the lower left quadrant. People like to read stuff they agree with and Jerry is almost 100% aligned with my views (and often more articulate than I).

    I’d like to believe that I’m more a centrist now only because the left has gone off the deep-end.

  82. Ben Curtis
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    The grid looks really odd to me. The opposite of authoritarian is libertarian? I would never have guessed that – what I find on the internet are words like democratic, liberal, or lenient, not libertarian. I would lump libertarians in as just another flavor of authoritarian – that is, someone who promotes the authority of the self. The only antonym I can find for libertarian (only brief search) is “necessitarian.” One definition of “libertarian” is someone who believes in free will. I would suspect the questions. Is this possibly a libertarian sponsored site?

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

      You will note that Libertarian can be either right wing or left wing (conservative or liberal).

      As to the Authoritarian vs Libertarian dichotomy, I found this from Wikipedia;

      “The other axis (authoritarian–libertarian) measures one’s political opinions in a social sense, regarding the amount of personal freedom that one would allow: “libertarianism” is defined as the belief that personal freedom should be maximised while “authoritarianism” is defined as the belief that authority should be obeyed.”

      • Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

        There is social libertarianism and economic lubertarianism. Leftists like the former but not the latter. I think we need both, which means we limit government to its essential functions. It does not need

        • Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

          to decide what is best for individuals own good unless their actions harm others.

        • Historian
          Posted January 30, 2018 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

          Yes, there are social libertarians and economic libertarians. But, when push comes to shove, people who refer to themselves as libertarians will almost always choose the economic branch. This is why they are allied with the political conservatives, e.g., Rand Paul.

      • Ben Curtis
        Posted January 31, 2018 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

        Thanks for that reference. Lots of good discussion, especially on “Talk” page for that entry. The failure to explain the scoring system used is means it can’t be replicated. Also, the response scale does not include a center point, making it hard for respondents to select an accurate choice. One goal of Likert-like scales is to try to simulate the accuracy of an interval scale to the extent possible with an opinion scale, and leaving out the center point makes that a lot harder for some respondents, plus it forces a directional choice and sometimes fence sitting is more accurate.

  83. Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Same position as you, Jerry. Right in the Green Centre. However, I like Noam Chomsky and since he’s the Left Pope, if there is one, I am not as insecure about my location 🙂

  84. Matthew North
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    My profile is just barely a shade right and a bit more libertarian than Jerry’s.

    About where I guessed it would be.

    • Leigh Jackson
      Posted February 1, 2018 at 6:57 am | Permalink

      You and me.

  85. Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    I had to vote libertarian left wing even though “left wing” in Britain means quite a long way left.

    My scores: -2.38 for left/right and -5.54 for libertarian.

    If I had done the same test as a young man, I think I would have been much further right so I bucked the alleged trend towards moving towards conservatism. I think, maybe it’s just regression to the mean.

  86. Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Very interesting. I will take the test in a moment, but I just had to note that I agree with your stance that the Left supports and/or practices quite a number of maladaptive behaviors. I consider myself somewhere between liberal and conservative, generally supporting liberal ideology more than conservative, but we shall see what the test says.

    • Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

      Well, I found myself to be very close to the center between right and left, but a little more left than right, and pretty libertarian. Very interesting test.

  87. EliHershkovitz
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    I’m one tile (up and right) from Jerry’s results which puts me squarely in Libertarian -Left territory yet I voted for Trump and plan on voting for him again in 2020. “Maladaptive excesses” have had a profound effect on my voting ballot.

    • Neil Wolfe
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

      It’s fine to be turned off by the maladaptive excesses of the left (I’m right there with you) but why would that make you support the malignant excesses of the right? You are free to vote however you like regardless of my approval – I’m just curious.

      • EliHershkovitz
        Posted January 31, 2018 at 12:21 am | Permalink

        Trump’s immigration policy sounds strikingly similar to Bill Clinton’s SOTU address in 1995. What happened in the interim? Identity politics and a future voting reservoir happened ensuring a one-party system within a generation (if Latinos voted Republican en masse the Dems would not issue key cards at the border). I fully appreciate how Trump’s style can be off-putting. I’m looking at goals, vision, and results: ramped-up economy, repatriated jobs/cash/tax infusion, culling regulations, tax reform, rise in long-stagnant wages, moving our embassy to Jerusalem, and putting America first—and that includes flyover country. The only Dem agenda I hear (I still watch a little MSNBC) is illegal immigrants first. What have the Dems done to fix our inner cities? Maybe jobs and an ability to speak our minds will help?

  88. Raghu Mani
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -5.0
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56

  89. J Cook
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    I find myself a bit to the left and a bit more libertarian than you. No questions were asked about the Mid East or the UN and questions of that ilk would have pushed me right. I don’t recognize the modern left anymore, the authoritarian left.

  90. Rick Bannister
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    I apparently am both more lest and more libertarian than PCC.

    Left -7.38
    Libertarian -6.41

  91. Blue
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    my politics and a passel o’m’other stuffs:

    http://www.twitter.com/ValaAfshar/status/958510491311247360

    Blue

  92. JonLynnHarvey
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    I got
    Economic Left/Right: -3.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.33
    ever so slightly North-East of JAC

  93. Craw
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    About as Libertarian as Coyne but center-right. This seems a reasonable assessment. I’m a pro-welfare state libertarian, broadly speaking. I like markets where possible, and a generous welfare state.

    • Craw
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

      Btw, I think this test has a lot of problems, the most — yes most — important being the questions seem directly pertinent to political position. The best such tests are constructed by cluster analysis of a broad range of answers to questions which often seem irrelevant. As several have remarked, they felt they could manipulate the score. So perhaps unintentionally one does when answering.
      Anyway, survey science is mostly codswallop.

      • ThyroidPlanet
        Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

        you had me at codswallop

  94. pck
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Strange, I’ve always associated libertarianism with right-wing values such as lack of social safety net, non-universal healthcare and all that.
    I’m what readers here would probably call a “regressive leftist” and I’m pretty square in the lower left corner, so I guess two dimensions are not enough to accurately portray the political spectrum.

    • Craw
      Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

      Many are also tendentious, designed to show you you are “really” an X. In my experience X is often Libertarian. I saw one test where I had to channel Stalin and Hitler to get medium as a libertarian.

      And I agree you are a regressive.

      • Neil Wolfe
        Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

        Be careful, for if you gaze too long into the Hitlerstalin, the Hitlerstalin also gazes into you.

        • Michael Fisher
          Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

          In the Guardian newspaper just now [I didn’t bother to click & read]: “…a study has concluded that attractive people are more likely to be right wing.” 🙂

          • Posted January 31, 2018 at 1:50 am | Permalink

            Here.

            “In a sense, attractive individuals have a blind spot that leads them to not see the need for more government support or aid in society,” Palmer and Peterson argue.

            /@

            • barn owl
              Posted January 31, 2018 at 6:10 am | Permalink

              Interesting. Although the article is in the Grauniad, it appears that the research subjects and data are from the US. My bias is that the conclusions wouldn’t hold true for at least some other countries and cultures.

  95. David Duncan
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Moderately libertarian, and right on the boundary between left and right.

  96. ThyroidPlanet
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Sub

  97. ThyroidPlanet
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    -3.88
    -4.46

  98. Mark R.
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Libertarian Left-wing. No surprise.

  99. ThyroidPlanet
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    If I had nothing else to do right now, or patience : go through again, but select “strong” options instead of simple agree/disagree, and vice versa… that must be a test design thing… or don’t use any “strong” selections… or just use one….

  100. Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    That could be my graph.

  101. Ullrich Fischer
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    -6.88
    -7.38

    Looks like Jerry Coyne lines up exactly with the UK green party.

    • Posted January 31, 2018 at 12:08 am | Permalink

      Looks like you and I share the same political and economic positions

  102. Gabrielle
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -2.0
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

    I appear to be less ‘leftist’ on the economic axis, compared to others here. Perhaps that’s due to my 20 years of working in the chemical industry.

  103. Walt Jones
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Further left and more libertarian then our host. To think that I voted for Reagan (twice) – I guess I’m the antithesis of the saying.

  104. Wayne Y Hoskisson
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    -8
    -8
    Extremely well balanced

  105. Stephen Caldwell
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -6.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.26

    Pretty much where I thought it would be. A smidge more Left and Libertarian than Jerry.

  106. Hal
    Posted January 30, 2018 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -6.5
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95

  107. Posted January 30, 2018 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -8.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.05

    Perhaps it’s something to do with the current political climate in New Zealand !!!

  108. Posted January 31, 2018 at 12:07 am | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -6.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38

  109. nicky
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    Would be interesting to have a scattergram on the grid of all the partricipants here. Eg. even Michael Fisher, who says he came in the ‘Stalin’ quadrant, was very close to the centre.

  110. Helen
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    Was concerned by the limited choices for answers. This survey seemed skewed.

  111. Helen
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    Would never be a libertarian, as they do not care what condition our roads will be in or if a fire department will come to their fire.

    • John Ottaway
      Posted January 31, 2018 at 3:42 am | Permalink

      That really isn’t how it works, that’s like saying all Authoritarians demand allegiance to the state… there is a balance

  112. David Coxill
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 1:58 am | Permalink

    First one 7.88.
    Second one 5.03.

    A little bit left than the Management.

  113. Timothy Bagley
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 2:12 am | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -6.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85
    And at the age of 63, I am proud of it!

  114. John Ottaway
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 3:40 am | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -5.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08

  115. Dick Veldkamp
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 3:54 am | Permalink

    OK – I did the graph, and sent it to PCC(E) (since I don’t know how to insert a picture here).

  116. Michael
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 4:12 am | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -5.0
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33

    “Libertarian-Left”

  117. Andy
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 4:43 am | Permalink

    (-6.88,-5.69). It’s interesting. I was expecting to be a bit more centrist on both axes. But like someone hinted at earlier, I think I wanted an “it depends” option for many questions.

  118. barael
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -5.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72

    Pretty centrist Left-Libertarian, I guess.

  119. ThyroidPlanet
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    I propose extra buttons / responses :

    • yes, but
    • it depends
    • I don’t understand

    … I bet that will shift I even further left…

    … come to think of it, what is their equation? They have pages and pages of talk but there should be a simple expression for the numbers… 42, anyone?

  120. Curt Nelson
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    I shy away from strongly agreeing or disagreeing about most things. My knowledge doesn’t permit it — too ignorant.

    That’s even the case when I’m reviewing the people who changed my oil, though. I suspect they whip them if all of their scores aren’t “extremely satisfied” but I can’t honestly get beyond satisfied.

  121. Posted January 31, 2018 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Very interesting. I got:

    Economic Left/Right: -6.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.0

    I think this is about where I expected to be. That said, 2 or 3 questions were on things that I don’t really know much about, which means I essentially had to “guess” based on gut feeling, without knowing for sure what my answer would be were I sufficiently educated!

  122. ThyroidPlanet
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Allow me to get this political nugget out of my system (so I don’t have to email PCC(E), PBUH)

    I heard recently, (don’t ask how), from a Republican candidate for governor of Florida, in a piece of writing that began with the words “They’re coming for us”, the following deepity:

    “We don’t want power – we want to restrain it.”

    … ahhh, that’s better. Thanks.

  123. another fred
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    -0.5 left
    -0.82 libertarian

    I don’t vote any more and consider stable political states as impossible due to the nature of human beings. I am just thankful for what peace we have had in my lifetime.

    Someone up thread mentioned savagery of corporations. Based on my experience (as an officer and board member), corporations, being a group endeavor, are pretty much amoral, but you do find some pretty predatory types. Mild psychopathy is advantageous for individuals. You had better bet your sweet ass that laws and penalties are needed.

    Frankly, what I find naive on the left is the belief that you can endow the state with enormous power and not find some very dark souls clawing their way to the top.

    Lord Acton said that power corrupts, true enough, but what is more important is that the opportunity for power attracts. The personalities it attracts are not always nice ones, but some are quite well suited for clawing their way to the top (natural selection).

    “It is a characteristic of all movements and crusades that the psychopathic element rises to the top.” Robert Lindner

  124. Gamall
    Posted January 31, 2018 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-6.88&soc=-4.67

    I’m more on the left than I expected.

    Should have included some questions on “safe spaces” and feminist glaciology. The result might have been different.

  125. Posted January 31, 2018 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    WoW!
    -7.12
    -7.59
    but I got the feeling as I was answering questions that I was going to be a gun toting
    authoritarian righty. I am really a Liberal
    TEXAN who remembers Gov Richards with fondness.

    • barn owl
      Posted January 31, 2018 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

      Me too!

      For those WEIT readers who are not familiar with Ann Richards, she’s the one who said:

      Poor George [Bush], he can’t help it — he was born with a silver foot in his mouth.

  126. Posted January 31, 2018 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    Well, I’m 74 and my scores are:

    Your Political Compass
    Economic Left/Right: -6.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

  127. Posted February 1, 2018 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -1.75
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41

  128. Posted February 1, 2018 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -8.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95

    Incidentally, the “evolutionary/revolutionary” thing affects my answers because certain things I change when it means “now immediately” vs. “in the limit” (for example on the futility of rehabilitation).

  129. Posted February 5, 2018 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    My result:
    Economic Left/Right: 1.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.33

    I’d wish the two authoritarian right-wingers to come out so that we could give them protected status!

  130. Torbjörn Larsson
    Posted March 12, 2018 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Economic Left/Right: -0.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

  131. Posted March 27, 2018 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    Economic -2.5
    Social -4.62


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