Saturday: Hili dialogue

by Grania

Good morning and welcome to Saturday. Jerry has arrived safely in India after an epic flight.

I’m off to see the new Star Wars movie. It had better be good, but I’m hopeful.

In the mean time, here’s an amazing photograph of a frog swallowing a snake, and the full story of the photo in NatGeo.

Over in Poland, Hili is reflecting on the long, dark teatime of the soul.

Hili: The darkness of the Middle Ages.
A: Where?
Hili: Outside the window.


In Polish:

Hili: Mroki średniowiecza.
Ja: Gdzie?
Hili: Za oknem.


  1. davidintoronto
    Posted December 16, 2017 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    Re: Star Wars

    The critics love it. But early word from audiences is decidedly mixed. Of course, this won’t affect the opening weekend box office.

    • Posted December 16, 2017 at 9:11 am | Permalink

      I saw it last night. I would say it was good in parts. The curtain raiser space battle was nice as long as you didn’t try to over analyse it. Then there was a flabby tedious sub plot that ended up going nowhere whose only point seemed to be to provide something to break up the sequences of Rey and Luke.

      The final act, however, was pretty gripping and there were some pretty interesting plot twists about which I’ll say no more because one of them was ruined for me by reading an article about the development of one of the characters.

      • ThyroidPlanet
        Posted December 16, 2017 at 9:25 am | Permalink

        I’m heartened that fellow readers are taking Star Wars exactly as it’s supposed to be taken – let’s leave it at that.

        Wondering if any movie places play old movies like Star Wars? I know a great movie house – plays Close Encounters, Blade Runner, – but never see Star Wars there…

  2. ThyroidPlanet
    Posted December 16, 2017 at 8:13 am | Permalink


    I don’t understand this, but Trump just banned some words – starting with the CDC :

    • Randall Schenck
      Posted December 16, 2017 at 8:27 am | Permalink

      Good idea to note, when you link to the Washington post, unless you subscribe you don’t see it.

      • ThyroidPlanet
        Posted December 16, 2017 at 10:08 am | Permalink

        Well, it’s “reportedly”, with the WaPo article at the bottom. Here’s the words :


        … I guess it’ll take time for this to get out in the open.

        • Hempenstein
          Posted December 16, 2017 at 11:53 am | Permalink

          There is a small silver lining – the CDC will not be able to warn Boss Tweet that his hamburger consumption makes him vulnerable to a stroke or heart attaci.

      • Jenny Haniver
        Posted December 16, 2017 at 10:47 am | Permalink

        Articles in the Washington Post aren’t behind a paywall. I don’t subscribe and have never had any trouble accessing their articles; and unlike the NYT and some other media outlets, there isn’t even a limit on free access. Perhaps you mean the Wall Street Journal — one can’t access any articles there without a subscription. Curses on the WSJ.

        • Martin X
          Posted December 17, 2017 at 1:55 am | Permalink

          Ah, yes, they are. You can get around it, though, by opening it up in a private or incognito window.

          If you never get blocked, you may be going through some sort of service that provides equivalent protection.

    • Michael Fisher
      Posted December 16, 2017 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

      @ThyroidPlanet That WashPO article doesn’t claim that “Trump just banned some words”

      And it it looks like the story may be wrong anyway. Here’s a link to a NYT article [paywalled I think]: which quotes two unnamed sources who say it was just internal advice on how to get budget approval from conservative Republicans. Or as I would put it, don’t use trigger words such as “fetus”, “diversity” or “trans-” when wanting money from conservative, fundamentalist, Christian loons.


      A former federal official:

      They are not saying to not use the words in reports or articles or scientific publications or anything else the C.D.C. does. […] “They’re saying not to use it in your request for money because it will hurt you. It’s not about censoring what C.D.C. can say to the American public. It’s about a budget strategy to get funded”

      A former C.D.C. official:

      “I don’t know exactly who said what in the meeting, but I have to assume this came from H.H.S. people, because they’re the ones who have to make the budget. […] I’ve also heard that some of the words might have been a little misconstrued. ‘Science-based’ and ‘evidence-based’ might not have been considered as unusable as the others”

      • ThyroidPlanet
        Posted December 16, 2017 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

        Ok thanks – sorry for the inaccurate statement

        I was following the story today – it’s looking less Orwellian –

        • Michael Fisher
          Posted December 16, 2017 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

          🙂 The most interesting example today of poor reporting is the uncritical one doing the rounds about… Sample Headline “The Pentagon’s Secret Search for UFOs” wherein we read about USN aviators in 2004, encountering a craft with unearthly flying characteristics.

          I looked around & found a POLITICO report with an interesting snippet buried halfway down the page: “… Mellon and his colleagues rolled out their new private effort [called To The Stars], which is now seeking investors with a minimum purchase of $200 in common stock shares. Its website claims 2,142 investors, who have purchased slightly more than $2 million worth of shares.”

          So now it’s clear what’s behind the story! But I haven’t seen a report anywhere yet that makes the above connection explicit & shouts “scam”

  3. rickflick
    Posted December 16, 2017 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    I’ve only ever encountered snakes swallowing frogs. The tables have turned.

    • Randall Schenck
      Posted December 16, 2017 at 8:53 am | Permalink

      Now we will have a movie – snakes and frogs on an airplane…

    • nicky
      Posted December 16, 2017 at 9:44 am | Permalink

      Same here, a first. There is also a video of a frog trying to swallow a snake twice it’s size.

  4. Posted December 16, 2017 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    Let us know what you think about The Movie, Grania. I plan to mildly enjoy it in a few days (hoping to be pleasantly surprised).

  5. Ken Phelps
    Posted December 16, 2017 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Since PCC posting will be light, does any one else think that the only part of the Omarosa sideshow that is even remotely interesting is the question WTF was she doing in the White House in the first place?

    • ThyroidPlanet
      Posted December 16, 2017 at 2:57 pm | Permalink



      WTH are any of them doing there


      The analogy of a show is, well, I think it is literally a show – the last, final reality TV show of Trump’s career, laughing all the way to the bank.

      • ThyroidPlanet
        Posted December 16, 2017 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

        Meaning it is the next level of reality TV – never before seen, unprecedented – again, literally.

        • Ken Phelps
          Posted December 16, 2017 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

          Part of me is almost looking forward to the sheer idiocy that will inevitably accompany his post presidential attention-whoring.

          • infiniteimprobabilit
            Posted December 16, 2017 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

            I share that feeling. Starting tomorrow would be good. 😉


  6. Ken Phelps
    Posted December 16, 2017 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    For anyone interested, I have started to post some photos on Flickr. User name is zeteticdds.

    As always, happy to discuss them or get feedback on improving them. Flickr has a personal message feature, as well as comments under the photos.

    • rickflick
      Posted December 16, 2017 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

      A lot of nice shots Ken. I imagine you have a lot of good memories tied up in them.

      • Ken Phelps
        Posted December 16, 2017 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

        I’ll make an effort to get a few hundred more up in the coming days. Or weeks.

        So on the phony lake picture (it was just some logging slash mirrored in PS), you think cropping some off the bottom would improve it – a la the juiced up image of the alder trees on the same page? I can see where it would certainly give it better balance, but part of the appeal for me was the flagrant mirrorishness of the thing.

        • rickflick
          Posted December 16, 2017 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

          Phony lakes are where you’ve got to go with your gut. 😎

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