Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ Xmas

Today’s Jesus and Mo strip, called “adopt”, came with the note, “Is it just me, or does the War Against Christmas start earlier every year?” Go here to read about the dubious (and uncertain) origins of the December 25 date.

 

17 Comments

  1. Randall Schenck
    Posted November 15, 2017 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    Bullshit. That is the answer to everything.

  2. Michael Fisher
    Posted November 15, 2017 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    “…they both admit that Jesus’s existence as a human was fictional”
    I don’t see that in this cartoon. Isn’t JC only saying ‘they’ aligned his b/day with the date of a pagan festival – fighting the BS pagan belief with a BS date for JC’s birth?

    i.e. the BS on the Christian side isn’t inventing the birth of JC as a human, but inventing a spurious date for the birth

    Or do I need another coffee to kick start brain?

    • Posted November 15, 2017 at 9:02 am | Permalink

      Yeah, you’re right. It was I who needed coffee. I’ll change the text!

  3. Ken Kukec
    Posted November 15, 2017 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    “Fake news” avant la lettre. Imagine what Russian troll farms could’ve done promoting the BS Xmas story on Facebook.

    Plus ça change

  4. Posted November 15, 2017 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Re “What puzzles me is that Mo’s talking to a real Jesus but they both admit that Jesus’s existence as a human was fictional.”

    Uh … it’s a cartoon … ? (Suspension of disbelief, you know? The two were born about 500 years apart if I remember right, so a conversation between the two just might be fictional.

  5. busterggi
    Posted November 15, 2017 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    i thought December 25th was chosen so the after-Christmas mark down sales that start on the 26th would be close.

  6. Craw
    Posted November 15, 2017 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Every year we get the fight over the word Christmas. I like it, it’s an important part of the culture and I think it’s too good to cede it to the religious. One no more needs to believe in Christ to say Christmas than you need to believe in Saturn to say Saturnalia. We can outgrow religion.

    • Randall Schenck
      Posted November 15, 2017 at 11:08 am | Permalink

      I say Bah & Humbug. Xmas is a retail invention for the religious sheep. Once all the shopping has gone to on-line they will have to find another reason to string the lights and chop down trees.

    • nicky
      Posted November 15, 2017 at 11:32 am | Permalink

      I do believe in Saturn, we even have some great pictures of it’s rings!

    • Posted November 15, 2017 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

      As a Thor supporter I get really annoyed when Christians talk about Thursday. My friend who believes in Janus is really pissed off about January.

      In fact, every single one of the English days of the week is named for a god nobody worships anymore. Language moves beyond the original etymology.

  7. nicky
    Posted November 15, 2017 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    This gets really kind of complicated. A fake date for the birth of a demigod/prophet that probably did not exist in the first place. But it is the real birthdate of some pagan imaginary god (Bacchus? Mithra? Horus?) close to the summer solstice (that would be winter solstice for you Northerners)?

    • Posted November 15, 2017 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

      close to the summer solstice

      Not close but on. December 25th was the winter solstice for a while until inaccuracies and reforms of the calendar m over it.

      • Posted November 15, 2017 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

        “December 25th was the winter solstice” – down here in the Northern hemisphere, that is.

  8. JonLynnHarvey
    Posted November 15, 2017 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    No one really knows why the church chose December 25th as the date of Jesus’ birth and multiple hypotheses have been proposed by historians, none of which involves the church’s hostility to Gnosticism.

    One hypothesis has to do with winter solstice, and another has to do with correspondence to the Roman festival of the Sun God.

    Gnosticism is a catch-all term for a whole set of heterodox beliefs, a few of which hold that Jesus only appeared human (but was actually an angelic being), but none of of these hold that Jesus was merely a symbol. Certainly, the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas considers Jesus a real person.

    In the five years that I have been following WEIT, this is my least favorite J&M. (I really really liked the one from Nov. 1st though.)

    My favorite Jew born on December 25th is probably Rod Serling, creator of “The Twilight Zone”.

  9. Blue
    Posted November 15, 2017 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    Oooo. And doooo, doooo, doooo, doooo: this
    ‘ne’s gooood, Mr JonLynnHarvey ! = ” born on
    December 25th is probably Rod Serling,
    creator of “The Twilight Zone”. ” What a
    terrific … … zone it was !

    Other real and for – true such 25 December
    birthings include these real and for – true
    people ! http://www.thelizlibrary.org/site-
    index/site-index-
    frame.html#soulhttp://www.thelizlibrary.org/site-index/site-index-body.html#WOMENS HISTORY LIBRARY !

    Blue


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