“What Does It Take (To Win Your Love)”

I’m just wondering whether this song, here performed live on “Late Night” 16 years after Junior Walker recorded it, would resonate at all with someone who’s now about eighteen. Would they get juiced at the saxophone solos? Would it make them want to get up and dance? Would they recognize its greatness? Or would they prefer Taylor Swift?

He’s gonna blow for you:

 

22 Comments

  1. Austin Johnson
    Posted October 3, 2017 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Great performance, I’m 23 and love this kind of music.

  2. alexandra Moffat
    Posted October 3, 2017 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    It is super – but that may be a bad sign for an 18 year old since I’m 89. Or does it mean that the music is timeless?

  3. Brian salkas
    Posted October 3, 2017 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    I’m 26, this is laaaaaame! but how about we listen to some real saxophone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Josj-G2uFQk

    • Posted October 4, 2017 at 7:01 am | Permalink

      Great playing. Real music, as always by Mr. Golson.

      But I guess the point here was to compare Mr. Walker as a soulful popular song performer with computer products like Ms. Swift.

      • Posted October 4, 2017 at 7:40 am | Permalink

        Yes, that WAS the point, but some readers couldn’t resist turning it into a pissing contest.

    • Posted October 4, 2017 at 7:23 am | Permalink

      Oh for chrissake. You’re comparing apples and oranges. If you’re going that route, The Bean blows away YOUR lame choice:

      • Brian salkas
        Posted October 4, 2017 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

        At least it is a pissing contest with GOOD music at this point;-). nice body and soul, THAT is some real music.

        • Brian salkas
          Posted October 5, 2017 at 12:33 am | Permalink

          I think I should have kept Poe’s law in mind with those last comments. The song you posted was fine, I was just being partial. Just having fun ripping on other peoples music, I’ll start being more obvious about the sarcasm and hyperbole.

      • Posted October 5, 2017 at 2:05 am | Permalink

        Can’t resist mentioning the recently published 1940 live version:

  4. Dan McPeek
    Posted October 3, 2017 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    It’s real saxophone if you’re in a nursing home ready to pass out. Otherwise, consider this recommendation:

  5. Larry Smith
    Posted October 4, 2017 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    Reminds me of my sister Debbie, a huge R&B influence on me! From her I learned about the Four Tops, the Temps, and everyone else, as well as other great music that shows up on WEIT such as Laura Nyro!

    Certainly this isn’t objectively the finest sax playing of all time, but I think the point is that it sure feels sometimes that the music that enriched our lives back in the 60s and such puts so much of the pop music of today to shame…

    • Posted October 4, 2017 at 7:21 am | Permalink

      People don’t seem to realize that this is a pop song, not a jazz song. I’ll match any of the real jazz songs above with this one from Art Pepper:

  6. KD33
    Posted October 4, 2017 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Love him. Also the other Junior, Junior Parker. I’ll try them out on her, but my 17 year old daughter likes Mingus, and some 70’s/80’s new wave and punk – I’ll take a little credit! Of course, there;’s lots of other stuff she listens to that I know nothing about …

  7. Posted October 4, 2017 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    Great music is great music – there’s no need to compare apples with oranges…..

    rz

  8. Ken Kukec
    Posted October 4, 2017 at 1:29 am | Permalink

    Now that’s some righteous sweet soul music.

    Junior’s “Shotgun” has always been my tune, since junior high.

    • George
      Posted October 4, 2017 at 8:08 am | Permalink

      “Shotgun” and “What Does It Take” are two instantly recognizable songs. Bits of those tunes have been used in so many movies and tv shows. Most people would instantly recognize the songs and begin bopping along. But very few of them would know that Junior Walker and the All Stars is the artist.

  9. Christopher
    Posted October 4, 2017 at 6:48 am | Permalink

    I don’t think I’m too much of an old fart, even thought I’m 40, to just automatically hate all music by the recent generation. My musical interests run the gamut and cover several hundred years before tapering off drastically in the last 15 years or so. There really is a qualitative difference in much of today’s music, but it’s not completely this generation’s fault. Every group of new teens had their Pat Boones and Milli Vanillis, their New Kids and such. Now, however, it seems that’s just about ALL they’ve got! So, take three to five notes of his sax, loop it over an equally repetitive drum machine beat, add some simplistic nonsense lyrics, and stick some lip-synching plastic pre-fab dancing dimwits and you’ll have yourself the next big hit for the 18yr olds.

    Tom Petty tried to warn us. There’s a great old clip of him smashing a drum machine to bits, back when disco was the latest crap music fad.

  10. Randy schenck
    Posted October 4, 2017 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    Must have been up late last night. Swift who?

  11. Liz
    Posted October 4, 2017 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    It probably depends on the person. I like this music and this song. Younger people might not so much. Since I share iPod songs with my sister who is 10 years younger than I am, I sometimes hear these “mashup” type of songs. They incorporate all different songs. I haven’t come across these songs except on my iPod. In addition to not watching music videos, I also sometimes don’t listen to lyrics. Someone else had to point out to me that some of these songs were “inappropriate” in certain ways. These are definitely Parental Advisory songs. I believe these are from 2010 or a little before which would have been when my little sister was 19. I ended up liking some of these mashups. I have more in common with my mom in terms of music than my little sister. She has a “‘90s” playlist on the iPod with early Billy Joel, Van Morrison, and Don McLean. Boom Boom Pau and Kisses and Thugs by Super Mash Bros have some Van Halen and John Mellencamp in them. Smash Your Head by Girl Talk has a really good artist also. Two good scenes with covers How Sweet It Is To Be Loved By You and These Eyes: American Pie Oz & Heather Singing (about a minute in) from American Pie (1999) and Superbad Evan Singing These Eyes from Superbad (2007). The second one is really better with the whole scene to give context but that is just the song.

  12. AlanF
    Posted October 4, 2017 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    One of my favorites since it first appeared on Top-40 centuries ago.

  13. Posted October 4, 2017 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Every generation has their music, but the access the coming generation has to previous generation’s music leads to appreciations much wider than before. I grew up on the Beatles and Stones (and JW and the All-Stars!) but later in live I cam to love frank Sinatra and Big Band music and Swing and … If I had been stuck with trying to find the music in its original form, I would have been looking for 78 rpm records and a player to play them. Now, most of it is available for download in the comfort of your own home. Finding it is not the hard part, knowing it exists is.

    On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Why Evolution Is True wrote:

    > whyevolutionistrue posted: “I’m just wondering whether this 1968 song by > Junior Walker, here performed live on “Late Night” 17 years after it was > first recorded, would resonate at all with someone who’s now about eighteen > years old. Would they get juiced at the saxophone solos? Woul” >

  14. Chris Swart
    Posted October 4, 2017 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    This doesn’t get old.


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