My podcast with Left at the Valley

This afternoon I did part of a podcast with Left at the Valley, a Canadian secularist-atheist group in the Fraser Valley in British Columbia. The entire podcast is below (they’re fast!), and I’m on between 41:05 and 1:14:00 (ca. 33 minutes). We covered a lot of ground, but the emphasis was on educating people about evolution.

As always, I can’t bear to listen to these things, but if you have half an hour, it’s below.


  1. Saul Sorrell-Till
    Posted September 30, 2017 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    You have a genuinely cool voice… It’s bizarre that you’d feel self-conscious about it.

    You should spare a thought for those with boring middle-class English accents that inherently suggest sarcasm, and that have to be reined in to avoid seeming slightly flighty and camp! I’m referring to a friend of mine obviously.

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted September 30, 2017 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

      Most of us Yanks are suckers for a posh Oxbridge/BBC accent. I know I am. They have me every time from the first “not at all” — the nasal fricative “n” ramping up into the three short, rounded vowels, separated by the two percussive “t”s, each sounded as crisply and distinctly as if struck by a symphony timpanist.

      Way we say it over here, it sounds like an over-the-counter sleep-aid: “Noddedal.”

      • Saul Sorrell-Till
        Posted October 1, 2017 at 7:22 am | Permalink

        Well I can tell you every English kid grew up wanting an American accent. Transformers, Star Wars, Ghostbusters…none of them spoke like us, and we noticed.

        The best we could ever hope for was to be a Hollywood villain; a villain generally – and for no apparent reason – beset by some kind of vaguely kinky physical ailment or barely-repressed sexual peccadillo. Even then the part only ever went to Englishmen with Alan Rickman/Jeremy Irons accents.

  2. Ken Kukec
    Posted September 30, 2017 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for doin’ the math for us on the length of the podcast, Jerry; as the saying goes, “know your customer.” 🙂

  3. Glenda Palmer
    Posted September 30, 2017 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Listened to the podcast Left at the Valley and thought it was very interesting. Everyone sounded relaxed and like they were enjoying themselves PLUS having intelligent conversation. Hope you will do a return to discuss free will with them.

  4. Posted October 1, 2017 at 2:44 am | Permalink

    I didn’t know that 33 minutes Canadian was different to 33 regular minutes. Interesting.

  5. Gary Allan
    Posted October 1, 2017 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    The Fraser Valley – fundamentalist-land, Canada.

  6. Posted October 1, 2017 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    I agree that Lawrence Krauss is wrong to say that physics should be taught before evolution.

    One can start by simply referring to it as a fact, in the same way as anyone would say that water is H2O, without needing to explain all the science behind it. Kids don’t need to see every nut and bolt before they get the big picture of what the thing is.

    This way they can also get used to the idea before some loon tells them it’s from the devil.

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