Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ ISIS

Today’s Jesus and Mo strip, called “clue“, came with a note:

Today’s comic is a day late because I wanted to watch Tom Holland’s C4 documentary first – Isis: The Origins of Violence. UK residents can catch up with it here. [JAC: I can’t watch it from the US, and that’s too bad. It was put on YouTube several times, but Channel 4 got all the videos taken down. Report back if you’ve seen it.

The strip makes fun of those who claim that ISIS is not an example of “true Islam,” but one could claim that it’s truer to Islam’s roots than many more liberal versions of the faith.

9 Comments

  1. TJR
    Posted May 18, 2017 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    ISIS are just trying to do what the armies of the Arab Conquest did, and for exactly the same reasons.

    Syria weakened by years of war – check

    Mesopotamia weakened by years of war – check

    Army of religious fanatics ready to invade and conquer anywhere they can – check

  2. Posted May 18, 2017 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    I teleported to Berkshire with my VPN, but then the site wanted me to sign in with an email address and a password. Oh well.

    • yiamcross
      Posted May 18, 2017 at 9:24 am | Permalink

      Just create a gmail.co.uk addy and password and you’re in. Shouldn’t be a problem.

    • Posted May 18, 2017 at 9:17 am | Permalink

      ‘So how Islamic is Islamic State? “Pretty Islamic, to the degree that they consider themselves to be Islamic,” he replies. “The mistake people make is to replicate Isis’s position, which is that there’s one, true form of Islam and anyone who deviates from that isn’t a Muslim. That’s Isis’s justification for killing Shia. Ironically, when Western leaders say ‘it’s nothing to do with Islam’, they’re doing the same. I don’t think it’s the business — particularly of non-Muslims — to specify what a Muslim is. If people say they’re Muslim, they’re Muslim.”’

      • yiamcross
        Posted May 18, 2017 at 9:34 am | Permalink

        Indeed. You would have thought their reliance on a literal interpretation of the koran eould be some kind of a clue as to how they identify religiously. Surely this is not some liberal attempt to invoke No True Scotsman..?

        It pains me to see how so many influential members of our society bend over backwards to excuse Islamic ideologies we rightly condemn in race and sex supremacists, homophobes and any number of other positions we consider vile and unacceptable.

        These are not idiots, they have a plan and are vigorously manipulating western guilt and tolerance to establish a system of religious oppression which will be difficult if not possible to reject.

        • rickflick
          Posted May 18, 2017 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

          The excuse is always given that the Saudi GID (their CIA) provides good intelligence on ISIS. I guess that’s at least the hope.
          Any enemy of my enemy is my friend.

  3. Randy schenck
    Posted May 18, 2017 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    As ISIS continues toward defeat one has to wonder what is next for the chaos of Islam. And will the terrorists activities throughout the world decrease? A news report I saw recently explains that Al-Qaeda is doing very well and has affiliates in many countries often using other names to hide it’s true nature. It also has a new Bin Laden, the son of Osama, Hamza to take over this brand. It continues to focus on attacks in America or American targets as it’s chief ambition.

  4. somer
    Posted May 18, 2017 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    with a view to the links between this and the direction of Turkey

    According to the Daily Beast 15 April 2017 “Hollywood’s New Armenian Genocide Denial Pic”, by Michael Daly
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/15/hollywood-classic-love-story-does-double-duty-as-armenian-genocide-whitewash
    A recent Hollywood film “The Ottoman Lieutenant” – is a love story set in Turkey during the Armenian genocide of WW1 but it portrays the genocide as some vague folly of war in which all parties suffered. It also portrays some Armenians as bandits and omits the Russians at Van where in fact 1,500 Armenians fought off certain death at Turkish hands until a Russian military force arrived to save them. The film was partially bankrolled by ES Film in which Erdogan’s controversial son Bilal is thought to be a partner. ES Film also made a Turkish series about Sultan Abdul Hamid where the script begins with him addressing a crowd as follows (translated)
    “From GIBRALTAR ISLAND TO JAVA, one nation, no borders, A nation that has faith in God; one nation; nation of Islam.”

    He goes on, “A nation that doesn’t bow their head, a nation that lives under the flag of the Caliphate.”

    He continues, “A clear white sky where call to prayers never end. Fertile lands that are nourished by the rivers. A military equipped with the latest technology… Army of mercy during peaceful time, and army of death during war.”

    He concludes, “This is my dream. This is my supreme state.”

    This is relevant because Sultan Abdulhamid II – often referred to simply as Hamid – was the perpetrator of the first wave of mass killings that were the lead up to the Armenian genocide. The slaughter sparked international outrage and he was branded “the Red Sultan”. Henry Morgenthau, the American Ambassador to Turkey at the time, accused the Sultan of trying to exterminate the Armenians. 200,000 were killed on Abdulhamid’s orders in 1895 and 1896 but his plans were ultimately thwarted for fear of intervention by England, France and Russia. After Abdulhamid, The Young Turks forcibly removed Armenian girls for concubinage to Muslims – where the offspring would be Muslim. Once allied with Germany, the Young Turks then felt free to wipe out all two million Armenians. Tom Holland talking on his new documentary on Isis to the Standard “Fatwas were pronounced in the Ottoman period that prescribed exactly what Isis are doing — that the men should be killed and the women enslaved.” Holland notes the efforts of Christians to review Christian scriptures that portray Jews as “Christ killers” post the Holocaust and says that Muslims need to do the same regarding their scriptures against non Muslims.


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