Classy POTUS attacks Nordstrom for dropping daughter’s fashion line

I’m going to try to limit Trump posts to about 2 every 3 days, but really, the Administration is such a clown car, with a new laugh appearing every day. The latest is Trump’s tweeting in defense of his daughter Ivanka, whose clothing line has apparently been dropped by both Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus.  Sales were down, and the remaining shoes and jewelry won’t reappear when they’re gone.

Nordstrom, according to the link above, refused to stop selling the line when a customer complained on political grounds, so there’s no firm reason to believe that there’s a political reason to discontinue the sales. (The Washington Post, however, has suggested that sales could be a consideration.) Regardless, Nordstrom has every right to decide whether or not to sell a given line, and for any reason it wants.

Nevertheless, the irascible Trump issued a tweet. Remember, this is by THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, defending his daughter’s business interests. Stay classy, Donald!

Of course, the ever-reliable toady Sean Spicer said discontinuing the line was a political decision, based on the Trump name, and defended her father’s Twitter rage.  What a lousy job Spicer has: Professional Liar and Sycophant.


  1. Carey
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    Harry Truman’s letter to the reviewer who panned his daughter’s singing performance is a superior example of this genre. Far more articulate.

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 11:00 am | Permalink

      If Trump had taken off on Twitter after someone who had insulted his daughter — if, say, they had said Ivanka smelled bad or dressed funny — then Trump would’ve gotten no push back (and plenty of parents would’ve rooted him on from the sidelines).

      But these retailers didn’t do that; they made a business decision for sound business reasons. Which is what makes this incident so wrongheaded and tacky.

      • gravelinspector-Aidan
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

        Which is what makes this incident so wrongheaded and tacky.

        That is possibly the best pair of adjectives I’ve heard (so far) to describe the Tweeting insult to Orangutang hairdressers.

    • Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

      But when Margaret stopped singing and started writing novels, apparently the insults terminated or diminished. (Or, maybe, it just was that Truman wasn’t in the Whitehouse any more. And he had to defend himself for having bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

  2. ascanius
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    All the Green Partiers and Bernie or Busters must be very proud of themselves for having done their bit to install Trump in the WH.

    • jeremy pereira
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 8:58 am | Permalink

      Please can we stop this now. Nearly 100 million people eligible to vote did not vote at all. Blaming a couple of million who voted with their conscience seems unfair.

      • ascanius
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:15 am | Permalink

        not unfair. this was an all-hands-on-deck moment in american history.

        those folks chose to narcissistically virtue signal v. doing everything in their power to defeat trump.

        they are indefensible.

        even far-left icon chomsky says they made a very bad mistake.

        denying the problem with the far (regressive) left is not helpful.

        • jeremy pereira
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:44 am | Permalink

          Sorry, if it was an all hands on deck moment, about 40% of the hands didn’t show up at all.

          I get that you are angry with a certain small percentage of the voters who might have made a difference if they had voted differently. But that’s history. You need to focus on what to do next.

          • ascanius
            Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:55 am | Permalink

            holding folks accountable for their self-destructive past behavior is part of the way forward.

            the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

            the regressive left virtue signaled in 2000 and again in 2016.

            time for deep reflection on bad voting attitudes on the left (it’s all about me and my conscience, can’t vote for the lesser of two evils, neither candidate deserves my vote, won’t vote if not pure enough, no need to vote unless i’m in love with candidate, no need to vote in midterms, since not exciting…)

            until the left assimilate these lessons and changes voting behavior drastically, not much will change.

            the gop on the other hand with extreme discipline shows up for midterms, holds nose and votes for gop candidate.

            result? gop control of nearly 75% of state governemnts and all of federal governemnt.

            refusing to acknowledge grave attitudinal problems on the left and not holding folks accountable for their bad behavior is not a way forward.

            • Rita
              Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:06 am | Permalink


            • jeremy pereira
              Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:33 am | Permalink

              The thing is that I’ve read a number of threads on various forums, blogs and web sites over the last few days and somebody always has to bring up the “Bernie or Bust”people must be feeling foolish” meme. There are lots of reasons why Trump is now in power and harping on about one of the least significant ones isn’t constructive. It’s over. Now you have to figure out how to persuade people to vote against Trump and the Republicans. Demonising certain classes of voters doesn’t help.

              • Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

                The Bernie faction is still with us, keeping their signs up, holding gatherings in parks and on main streets, and taking over county Democratic organizations. It will be interesting to see what comes of all that.

                Just yesterday, after McConnell shot down,shut up Warren’s reading of King’s letter to Thurmond, I learned that Oregon Senator Merkley read the letter into the record. No big hoo-haw in the media. Later in the day, TV and internet ascribed the reading of the letter to Bernie.
                Maybe they both did the same thing. But, Bernie got the attention of the media, of course.

              • darrelle
                Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

                Yeah. After Mitch showed his ass (when is he ever not showing his ass?) in the Warren letter reading affair at least 3 other male Senators read the letter during the hearing.

              • infiniteimprobabilit
                Posted February 9, 2017 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

                It’s known (as everybody noted at the time) as the Streisand Effect.


        • Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:28 am | Permalink

          You might wish to consider the obvious fact that Clinton’s imagined millions of liberals who didn’t vote for her are every bit as imaginary as Drumpf’s imagined millions of “bad hombres” who cost him the popular vote.

          Drumpf was, far and away, the very worst candidate the Republicans ever put forth. Never mind his lack of qualifications and incompetence at business management; the man brags of his sexual predation!

          Clinton’s failure to win a Reaganesque landslide over somebody so pathetic demonstrates that she herself was the worst campaigner ever to run at the head of the Democratic ticket.

          So we have unimpeachable evidence that both parties are hopelessly corrupted beyond measure…

          …and you seriously think that the solution is to continue to support the corruption?

          There’s another perfect example, amongst countless others, just from yesterday’s news. Mitch McConnell told Elizabeth Warren to shut up and get back in the kitchen with the darkies she’s fawning over so a real man get get to work.

          In any previous era in history, the Democrats would have had no trouble turning that into an instant legislative victory…but today? All we get is a new #hashtag.

          The Democrats aren’t going to save you from Drumpf. Not only would they have already, we wouldn’t be in this mess were they willing and / or able. And Republicans are overjoyed with him; sure, he keeps making an ass of himself, but they’re totally in bed with each other legislatively, and right now is a positive wet dream for the Republicans.

          Those hoping for Dumpf to go far enough over the line for him to get tripped up are living in a fantasy, as well. His entire campaign was proudly over the line. Hell, just his tweets the past couple days would have gotten any other president impeached for attempting to interfere with the judiciary.

          No, we’re well and truly screwed right now…

          ..and the only thing we can do is the same as always. One day at a time, do what you can to make the world a better place. Get up in the morning, make your bed, put on your shoes, and go out into the world to make new beautiful things and fix and clean up whatever isn’t beautiful. On whatever scale and scope is within your power.

          It’s bad right now, and the momentum is headed for worse, possibly much worse. But, in stark contrast, chances are excellent that your personal experience right now, this moment, is really damned good; I’m drinking an excellent cup of coffee in a comfortable, warm house, about to put on some nice clothes and drive a really fun car to an appointment.

          It’s important to keep things in perspective, and to not let the world going to hell prevent you from enjoying the heavens all around. First, why let fear of evil destroy perfectly good good? Isn’t that itself just as evil as the evil itself? But, also, practically…it’s the best way to fight evil. If you build bridges faster than evil can burn them, it’ll all work itself out eventually.

          Perspective…we’re in the middle of the transition from the American Republic to whatever comes next, and it’s every bit as scary a transition as the one from the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire or any of the other examples in history.

          But Germany had a similar transition not all that long ago, with Adolf Freakin’ Hitler at the pivot…and Germany today is more wonderful and civilized than at any point in its history — and you’d be hard pressed to find a nation with a more wonderful and civilized history than Germany.

          I don’t know how bad it’s going to get, but the pace of it all gives me hope that it’ll at least be over reasonably quickly. And I don’t know what the new normal is going to be…but I have good reason to hope that, no farther in our future than WWII is in our past, we’ll again be neck-and-neck with Germany (and Japan and…) in the civilization, peace, and prosperity department.



          • Historian
            Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:48 am | Permalink

            I see no correlation or evidence that the presumed ineptness of the Clinton campaign has anything to do with the supposed the corruption of the Democratic Party. I unequivocally reject your view that there are no substantive differences between the parties.

            • ascanius
              Posted February 9, 2017 at 11:19 am | Permalink

              + 1

            • mikeyc
              Posted February 9, 2017 at 11:53 am | Permalink

              There is at least one major difference between the parties; one knows how to win elections, even with appalling candidates.

              Time for the Democratic party to die. Let it be replaced by one that can win.

              • Filippo
                Posted February 9, 2017 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

                Or receive something more than 3,000,000 more popular votes.

                It would have helped if Hillary Clinton had made a few noises of concern about the loss of blue collar manufacturing jobs, and perhaps spoken – for a fee if necessary – to a few labor conventions as opposed to being paid big bucks to speak before Wall Street masters of mankind.

              • gravelinspector-Aidan
                Posted February 9, 2017 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

                Time for the Democratic party to die. Let it be replaced by one that can win.

                What is that (arguable) Einstein-ism? “Madness is doing the same thing again, hoping for a different result.”
                I’m not sure if the problem is with the party system, or the TWO party system. (We have the same debate in England, though in Scotland it is far closer to a 4-party system. Which leads into coalitionism.

            • Randy schenck
              Posted February 9, 2017 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

              I think Ben is simply reviewing some reality for us pessimists. Yes there is differences but that does not excuse the pathetic job of the democrats in general. Where is the future for the democrats if any?

          • nicky
            Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

            As said before, the greatest mistake by the Dems was to let the Reps get away with electoral fraud. They did it on a small -Florida- scale in 2000, and on a larger scale in 2016. (Gerrymandering, CrossCheck, partisan counting etc. etc)
            And I do not see them not repeating that mistake.
            I posted the link before, but it appears the best way to go:

          • Mark R.
            Posted February 9, 2017 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

            …but I have good reason to hope that, no farther in our future than WWII is in our past, we’ll again be neck-and-neck with Germany (and Japan and…) in the civilization, peace, and prosperity department.

            So in 70+ years it’ll all be great again? Boy, I hope I can live to 117 so I can see it! Sorry, but that gives me no solace. Not even to mention ACC…in 70 years Florida will probably be under water.

        • gravelinspector-Aidan
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

          not unfair. this was an all-hands-on-deck moment in american history.

          Given the very – criticisable American tendency to congratulate themselves as being successful in works-in-progress (e.g. defeating racism ; getting out of Bush’s wars ; providing medicine to their population), then the description of this as an “all hands on deck” situation is … not even laughable.

      • eric
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:19 am | Permalink

        There will always be a sizeable section of the US populace that is eligible to vote and doesn’t. That fact makes it more important to consider the real-world consequences of your vote, not less important.

        • gravelinspector-Aidan
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

          That can be changed. Non-voters pay 5% extra on their annual tax bill, for example. Want the rebate? Provide the checkcodes on tear-off slips on your voting forms, for example.
          (Lets see … 300 million US voters, so plan for 10 billion ; 2 to 3 voting rounds per year, so provide for 10 rounds. That’s 100 billion possible ballots per year. That;s about 10 hex digits with a good margin for some check bits. The very familiar 16-digit number (four groups of four) should provide ample space for unique and check-summmed ballot IDs without keeping a record of issued IDs (and therefore of how people voted).
          Cue comments from Oz (Down Under, not Land Of) on the efficacy of “compulsory voting”. Particularly compared with the idea of “not voting will cost me money”.

      • Kevin
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:28 am | Permalink

        Voting is representative of the people, assuming at least a large number of people vote. It’s never been shown that there were a disproportionate number of one type of non-voter vs. another.

        10^6 participants represents what 10^8 people would have wanted.

        • gravelinspector-Aidan
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

          IFF the participant sample (voters) were randomly selected from the population, yes. But if there were non-random influences on the likelihood of someone voting (e.g. Boss-to-minion: “I don’t care if you want to vote, you work until closing time or you don’t work tomorrow!”), and particularly so if that influence is correlated with the voter’s likely sense of voting (treating voter preference as a vector in n-dimensional mathematical space).
          IANA Statistician, but I could probably fail a TV audition for the role for being too boring to be believable.

      • Historian
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:28 am | Permalink

        I think it is fair to say that there is a lot of blame to go around. Regarding those people who don’t vote, I don’t know whether to loathe them or pity them. So disconnected from the political system and lacking understanding of it, they simply say there is no difference between the candidates, regardless of the election or the issues. Authoritarians like Trump love these people. They know that there is a large percent of the population that will not stand in their way, no matter what they do. As far as I can see, there is little one can do to reach nonvoters. Most lead diminished lives and are oblivious to the fact that the simple act of voting could better them. See this Pew report from 2014 that reported that nonvoters are largely younger, more racially diverse, and more financially strapped than voters.

    • Mark Sturtevant
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:36 am | Permalink

      I am not sure that scarcely matters. First, were there significant #s of Democratic voters who stayed home because Bernie was not in the general election? One can find some who so identify, but what matters are significant numbers.
      Second, and more importantly, this election was determined by narrow margins in a few swing states. So the real onus is on stay-at-home Democratic voters in those states. A wider margin for Hillary in states she won would make no difference at all.

      • ascanius
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:59 am | Permalink

        sustained vicious attacks on hillary by the left for 8 or 9 months helped dampen enthusiasm generally.

        bernie slyly grinning as his crowds began to viciously boo the mention of hillary’s was not much different than trump crowds chanting “lock her up”.

        the hard challenge from the left weakened her candidacy.

        the most progressive platform in the history of the Democratic party, and the progressive wing spat on it.

        • Rita
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:17 am | Permalink

          You had me until “Bernie grinning slyly…” Newsflash: it isn’t disloyal or wrong for there to be a primary challenger. That’s what primaries are for. The “hard Challenge from the Left” is what got the progressive platform, that wouldn’t have been nearly as progressive without that challenge. I do blame the progressives who refused to follow Bernie’s lead (remember he urged his followers to vote for Hillary, as he did, and he stressed the importance of working to defeat Trump), and continued to attack Hillary, often spreading lies promulgated by Breitbart. Those are the people to blame.

        • Kevin
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

          I liked both Hillary and Bernie and it is completely foreign to me how some hated one and loved the other. In retrospect Hillary should have stepped down.

    • W.Benson
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:04 am | Permalink

      The election was between Alien (Trump) and Predator (Hillary). Had Hillary won, would we not be today preparing for wars in Syria and the South China Sea? Trump will be defeated, and America will be the better for it.

      • Rita
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:19 am | Permalink

        Trump will eventually be defeated, but the damage may not be able to be repaired in time.

        • Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:35 am | Permalink


          If Germany can recover from Hitler, America can recover from Drumpf.

          Drumpf really is a bull let loose in a china shop, and really is smashing everything, and it really is bad, and we really shouldn’t have let it happen, and we really don’t want it to happen ever again.

          But the bull is loose in the china shop, and he’s only started smashing, and he’s going to smash lots of really nice things before it’s over…

          …but it will be over, and it’s upon us to stop him as best we can, and then rebuild the china shop better than it ever was when it’s over.



          • Historian
            Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:55 am | Permalink

            Yes, Germany recovered after the country was totally destroyed and 50 to 60 million people worldwide were killed. This is not the type of recovery I would like to see for the United States and perhaps the world. Trump’s damage probably will not be this bad, but millions of lives could be ruined, and the American system of government permanently damaged. Rita is right on the mark.

            • nicky
              Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

              Moreover, Germany recovered with the Marshall Aid. Who will ‘Marshall-aid’ the US after Trump?

              • Kevin
                Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

                Science and secularism. We can wake up together as a species.

            • Posted February 9, 2017 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

              That we neither of us wish to see the bull wreak havoc in the china shop is utterly irrelevant.

              The bull is loose in the shop and is wreaking havoc and will continue to do so for at least a little while longer.

              Like it or not, that’s reality. It will persist whether or not you believe in it.

              But it’s also true that the bull will not continue his rampage forever, and that what’s left to us is to build anew.

              Again, whether you like it or not.

              Whining about how unhappy you are with the bull and his wreckage does no more to build anew than blaming somebody for failing to lock the door that the bull smashed through.

              The milk is spilt. Are you just gonna sit there and cry until somebody slips on it, and then cry some more? Or are you going to help us mop it up, and maybe try to design a better stopper for the milk jug while we’re at it?



              • Historian
                Posted February 9, 2017 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

                If the bull knocks over the milk that a person depends on for life and consequently dies then mopping up the milk or designing a better container is meaningless. Now multiply one person by several million. Again, whether you like it or not.

                While the bull rampages people need to do more than tend their gardens and wait for it to go away. They might be better off trying to get rid of the bull now!

              • Posted February 9, 2017 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

                If you are in a position to do something about the bull, of course, by all means. Grab him by the horns if you’re Hercules. If you’re a matador, wave your cape. Save the day, be the hero.

                But damned few of us are herculean bullfighters, and the few of us who are are either far away, watching their own storefronts, or the ones who chased him into the china shop in the first place.

                Neither of us are supermen. Neither of us can do much more to influence global affairs than post notes nobody else will read on random Web sites.

                But we can tend to our own affairs.

                Your error lies in thinking that, because the bull is running amok, that’s all that matters. Panic, scream, maybe smash windows or cheer on the window-smashers.

                Wisdom comes in recognizing that, yes, the amok bull is important — but not only are you not in a position to do anything about it, you would be most remiss were you to fail in upholding the rest of your responsibilities, trebly so if you contribute to the chaos.

                The choice is between a world with a mad bull on the loose and everything else going to hell because everybody forgets what it means to be a responsible adult, and a world with a mad bull on the loose and most everything outside the bull’s immediate sphere of influence continuing as normal.

                Pop quiz: does the china shop get rebuilt quicker if everything else has gone to hell in the mean time or if everybody has been continuing to do whatever they can to build for a better future?

                Or, put another way. Imagine you really are the matador. After you’ve finished subduing the bull, would you rather come home to business as usual with people there to help tend to your fresh wounds and feed you and mend your ripped clothing? Or would you rather everybody just gave up and ran around screaming their fool heads off and maybe smashing a few windows of their own?



        • gravelinspector-Aidan
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

          the damage may not be able to be repaired in time.

          Well, with something on the upside of a billion years between “now” and “the oceans boil due to increases Solar luminance” … please be more precise about what you mean by “in time”. We are, after all, within 3 generations of the USian Civil Massacre. And the Seward Purchase.

      • Posted February 9, 2017 at 11:52 am | Permalink

        Alien already has started the march toward warfare in Syria and the South China Sea, plus seven Middle Eastern countries. Why blame Hillary? Not only that, but Alien has made nice with Putin, P.O.d a number of our allies, and
        generally made an idiot of himself.

        • ascanius
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 11:56 am | Permalink

          goren seems to be trapped in the false narrative that both parties are essentially the same. there also seem to be some apocalyptic revolutionary fantasies at play as well.

          • Posted February 9, 2017 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

            Simply because they are different does not mean that one is preferable. Would you rather get hit by a bus while you’re trying to jaywalk or drown while you’re trying to cross a flooded wash?

            No, the parties aren’t the same. Not even close.

            The T-Party is a bunch of authoritarian xenophobes in love with an incoherent narcissist. And the Democrats went into an arm-wrestling match allegedly loaded for bear and still got their asses handed to them in a sling — and to this day they still aren’t even being as effective at slowing down Drumpf as a parking lot speedbump at a monster truck rally.

            I should cheer and endorse such gross incompetence…why, exactly? Especially when I’m farther away from the Democrats in terms of socioeconomic philosophy than they are from the Republicans?



            • gravelinspector-Aidan
              Posted February 9, 2017 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

              The T-Party is a bunch of authoritarian xenophobes in love with an incoherent narcissist.

              I think that fear is a more important emotion than love, in this context. No-one dares to be the one who is off-message when the small-handed monster swings it’s baleful gaze towards them.

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

      Needs moar recrimination!

  3. Simon Hayward
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    I am routinely not be allowed to review a grant proposals, sometimes from people that I don’t even know directly due to the “possible appearance of a conflict of interest” – usually we self report conflicts, sometimes they are computer identified and nobody has a clue why they are there, but we shrug and obey. This sort of thing is common to many walks of life especially those involving public funds and concerns.

    I fail to understand why our chief executive is not bound by the regulations imposed on everyone else. This should be a case where bilateral legislation can be made to apply normal standards to the executive branch, at least to the next occupant of the post. Generally one has to see the problem before making the rule. Think I’ll contact my representatives.

    • eric
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:13 am | Permalink

      Well I doubt Congress is going to be punitive towards Nordstrom just because of Trump’s post. But your point is well taken.

      What I can’t get over is a supposed businessman suggesting ‘being a good person’ is a reason Nordstrom should order more of her stuff. He should know better.

  4. Posted February 9, 2017 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    The president seems to understand the difference between #POTUS and #realDonaldTrump. #POTUS and a women clothing line?

    • Heather Hastie
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

      Unfortunately he doesn’t. The POTUS account retweeted the anti-Nordstrom tweet.

      It’s not just the two retailers Jerry mentioned that have dropped Ivanka either. There are at least seven so far.

      It’s not the retailers who are the problem, it’s Trump. Ivanka’s products appeal to a demographic that are mostly disgusted and appalled by her father’s behaviour, especially towards women. That’s why they no longer buy her products.

      He’s the reason she’s being treated “unfairly.” Perhaps she should take him to court and seek damages.

      • Mark R.
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

        My thoughts exactly…unfortunately, Trump never developed the irony part of his brain.

        • gravelinspector-Aidan
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

          Small hands, small brain. I’ve met cuttlefish with better developed brains.
          (Watches trebuchet doing what trebuchets do.) I’ve seen trebuchets with greater grasp of ethics and better negotiation skills.

          • infiniteimprobabilit
            Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

            Speaking of small hands, why does he keep making that ‘circle’ gesture with his thumb and forefinger? I can think of several indecent interpretations of it…


            • gravelinspector-Aidan
              Posted February 10, 2017 at 11:30 am | Permalink

              It’s just the shape (and size) that his fingers naturally fall to.

  5. Posted February 9, 2017 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    The stuff is all made in China and Hong Kong anyway!

    Hypocrisy much?

    • infiniteimprobabilit
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

      Isn’t everybody’s? (Made in Asia, that is).

      I wouldn’t accuse Ivanka of hypocrisy (not that you were, specifically). The Drumpf, now, you name it, he’s got it.


      • gravelinspector-Aidan
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

        Congenal syphilis?

        • infiniteimprobabilit
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

          We wish…

          (I was thinking of character defects, but never mind, the clap will do nicely…)

  6. Blue
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    I have been enjoying, since along ~20 January 2017, and The Nation’s subsequent “alternative facts” – type of Its Days following That One … … this particular tweet account: Alt – POTUS 45 of @IfHillaryHad done up nearly hourly there by Ms Sarah Lerner of @sarahlerner.

    About seven hours or so ago ? Thus, Ms Lerner REtweeted from Ms Jen Kirkman’s (@JenKirkman) account: “In the ultimate act of revenge – Hillary should develop a line of pantsuits for Nordstrom.”

    If Any ‘re in need of a wee chortle – to – a hearty guffaw ? Head on o’er to Ms Lerner’s account and check out her DAY # – series of IFHillaryHad been the 45th One – tweets.

    A darling one is “DAY 15: Met with my cabinet (they’re not all white guys, FYI). Told Huckabee to go to fucking hell. Sent Bill to Target for throw pillows.” Hillary sends Bill out for stuffs, usually noms !, all day long ! After, first, Shovelin’ the Shit o’Others around Her Oval Office.

    Some throw pillows, please, IF in need of “some comfort now !”


    • Blue
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:25 am | Permalink

      And as re thus of that “ever – reliable toady Sean Spicer said” anything ? ! … … here is the spot on – fabulous Ms McCarthy of SNL’s S Spicer doppelgänging – parody !


  7. Mark Reaume
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    “She is a great person — always pushing me to do the right thing! Terrible!”

    He’s right! She is terrible at getting him to do the right thing.

    • Randy schenck
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 8:55 am | Permalink

      And as someone already said – why does he need her or anyone to push him to do the right thing. Should he not have figured out how to do that anyway. Not Likely…

    • jeremy pereira
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:01 am | Permalink

      I read it as it’s terrible that she pushes him to do the right thing, not that she is terrible at it.

      • Heather Hastie
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

        That’s how I read it too.

        • Mark Reaume
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

          My way works better as a joke though.

          • Heather Hastie
            Posted February 9, 2017 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

            Yeah, it does. 🙂

            Though when I first heard it I also thought it was funny that he was saying how terrible it was that Ivanka was always trying to make him do the right thing.

    • Mark Sturtevant
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:39 am | Permalink

      As was commented by a late night talk show last night: She clearly has not been pushing hard enough.

    • Mark R.
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

      Pretty hilarious…he is basically saying don’t attack Ivanka because I’m an evil person who does horrible things and she’s the only one who can stop me. What kind of twisted logic is that? I refuse to become inured to it.

  8. Randy schenck
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Can we imagine Obama or Bush tweeting something like this personal matter concerning a family member. Or any high government official? When googling “low class” there should just be a picture of this guy. Not that we need another picture.

  9. sponge bob
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Twitter’s gotta be loving this president.

  10. Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    Hypocrisy abounds:

    Store Owner: I refuse service to liberals and Bruce Springsteen

    The Right: Good for you, standing up for what you believe in!

    Nordstrom’s: Nobody’s buying this crap, so we’re discontinuing the line.

    The Right: That’s so unfair! You must have a political bias!

    Markets? What markets? We only need those when arguing against regulations!

    • jeremy pereira
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:54 am | Permalink

      To be fair it’s not the right complaining, it’s only Donald Trump.

      • Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

        Whom the Right voted in as their puppet, talking head, tweeter, whatever he is. Well, perhaps, I should also make reference to his wealthy patrons who drumpfed so many millions into his campaign to help get him elected. He is trying to be a Dictator, and he is directed by an Oligarchy.

  11. ThyroidPlanet
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    “I’m going to try to limit Trump posts to about 2 every 3 days, but really…”

    You know what PCC(E) – forget it. Unload. No limits. It will make you feel better. Get it out of your system. I can handle it.

    …. one Trump comment:

    Has it occurred to anyone yet that Trump knows about as much as anyone does about executive orders? After all, if I was elected president, or anyone for that matter, they’d be faced all of a sudden with EO’s.

    That is not to argue in defense or offense of Trump, but more to empower anyone to know they have every reason to speak their mind, and not be cowed by Republican defenders….

    Gotta go, sorry…

    • eric
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:16 am | Permalink

      Make it part of the daily post. Have the ‘Hili and friends’ section, the ‘who was born/died today’ section, and the ‘Presidential gaffes of yesterday’ section.

      • gravelinspector-Aidan
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

        Hili would find the company distasteful. Degrading.

    • Aelfric
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:18 am | Permalink

      I honestly don’t think Trump has any real notion as to how government works, period. he is notoriously incurious. Everything I see leads me to believe that his view of government is that he has the power, congress is essentially his royal court, and judges are there to enact his will. As many have said before, I hold his enablers, Ryan, McConnell, et al. just as responsible for what goes on as the man himself. Now I am depressing myself, but I have to admit I am more thankful than ever for my wife (from Canada). Cheers.

  12. Mike
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    I can’t look at this guy without seeing Melissa McCarthy.

  13. rickflick
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    I’ll admit I love the daily dose of jocularity surrounding the leader of the free world, but I’m just a bit worried. Rachel Maddow (among others) made the point that these diversions are in danger of pushing the real damage being wrought of the headlines. It would not surprise me to learn that Bannon encourages Trump to spew as much as he wants so that people have less time to think about the illegality rumbling along in the background. People may be beginning to forget the question of his legitimacy based on foreign interference in the election, or Trump’s unwillingness to divest properly – remember emoluments?

    • Historian
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:44 am | Permalink

      You make an excellent point. The media’s infatuation with Trump trivia diverts it from focusing on Trump’s important actions, which consist of stocking his administration with corporatists and right-wing zealots who want to dismember the social safety net, deny science, restrict voting, return women to the kitchen (or to the bedroom with the primary duty to produce babies) and destroy the separation of church and state. Since Trump is a master at stoking fear of Islamic terrorism, he and his minions are well on the way to achieving their goals with the masses clueless as to what is happening as they cower under their beds, trying to hide from the Syrian refugee who is out to get them.

      • ascanius
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:05 am | Permalink

        same game plan as during the campaign.

        media did not cover the issues or the consequences of proposed policies, just the personalities and the momentary outrage.

        journalism has been broken by corporate greed.

      • rickflick
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:23 am | Permalink

        I enjoyed reading your round up of Trump dangers. I like to keep them within mental reach at all times. I’d add one more of the highest consequence of all: Nuclear war.

    • Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

      You’re right. We should not get so caught up in the daily Trump & cohorts gaffes, however humorous that we pay no attention to Russia, Bannon (an Apocalyptacist -end of the world guy),DeVos (an ignorant Charter Schools pimpess, and Sessions (a racist) are in his cabinet. It’s not just that our President, Congress and Judiciary are or will be tainted with far right ideology. The last forty years, inroads have been made in state, county and city governments,and lower levels of the judiciary.

  14. craw
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    I disagree here. There was a clear and petty boycott. This is a shrewder take.

    • Aelfric
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:13 am | Permalink

      Could you elaborate a bit on your disagreement? Presumably you mean because there was a “clear and petty boycott,” the President is entitled to weigh in?

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:51 am | Permalink

      There’s no evidence or analysis in the Althouse item you link to — only a complaint about women being bitchy to other women.

      And if there is a boycott, so what? (What makes it “petty”?) In a free market, don’t consumers enjoy the absolute right to purchase or refrain from purchasing for any reason they alone see fit? If Ivanka’s merch ain’t moving off the shelf, what’s Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus supposed to do, keep stocking it anyway in derogation of the interests of their stockholders?

      So Trump’s attack on them is wrong, in addition to being cheesy and demeaning to his office.

      • Heather Hastie
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

        When the left proposed a boycott of Chick Filet (or whatever they’re called) their sales went through the roof because of right wing supporters. There was a proposed boycott, but we don’t know that’s why sales are down.

        Also, apparently sales were already down before the boycott was called. As I said above, I think it’s more because ALL women are disgusted with Trump.

        And why aren’t women allowed to criticize one another without it being considered petty or bitchy? That smacks of sexism.

        • Ken Kukec
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

          “Chick-fil-A,” I believe, is the primitive, phonetic spelling. I tried ’em only once, back before the boycott, when one of my sons brought a bag-full home in the middle of a night when I was up fulminating at the keyboard (if you can imagine). They weren’t half bad, for that kind of thing.

  15. Kevin
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Not sure if this will link but it it is appropriate (off of J.K. Rawlings Tw**t):

    George Wallace – JFK/Reagan/Trump

    Ask not what your country can do for you

    Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

    My daughter Ivanka has been treated so unfairly by Nordstrom

  16. Ken Kukec
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Trump, I think, is so accustomed to people taking an immediate visceral dislike of him that he believes all opposition to him is motivated by deep personal animus. He is incapable of perceiving that someone may simply disagree with him or wish to pursue opposing interests.

    Trump is also incapable of perceiving any grey scale; for him there is no in-between, only the “tremendous” and the “disaster” — which corresponds solely and directly to whether he sees it as pro-Trump or anti-Trump. The metrics of true/false, and even of good policy/bad policy, are as imperceptible to him as light is to a cave fish.

    In response to any opposition, however tempered it may be, Trump (who fancies himself a world-class “counter-puncher”) immediately attacks. With men, the attack invariably comes in the form of an attempted kick in the nuts, an attack on his opponent’s manhood, either literally or figuratively.

    With women, Trump’s attacks take the form of denigration of their appearance or personality (“nasty woman”). Trump views women primarily as uteri — and views women’s good-looks and pleasing personality as uteri life-support systems. To denigrate them, he believes, is to attack a woman’s raison d’être.

    • darrelle
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

      I think that’s pretty accurate. Minor difference, I think Trump looks at women primarily as sex toys.

    • Heather Hastie
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

      Apparently his biggest problem with the Sean Spicer/SNL skit is Spicer is played by a woman. He thinks that makes him look weak. It’s beyond him that most people don’t characterize it that way. He still has a Mad Men view of women.

      Then there’s his sick obsession with Ivanka’s physical attractiveness, and the fact his wife is a lookalike. Both women have so much going for them, but it’s the looks he focuses on.

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

        Melania is attractive, I’m sure. But I find it hard to tell what she actually looks like under all that hair, under all that make-up.

        She strikes me as the Slovenian sphinx, sitting there silently, staring off into the middle-distance, thinking about god-knows-what.

        • Heather Hastie
          Posted February 9, 2017 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

          She’s thinking she’s stuck with him for at least four more years. She can’t leave him while he’s president. If anyone was hoping he’d lose the election, it’s her.

          • Ken Kukec
            Posted February 9, 2017 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

            That’s as good a guess as any, I suppose.

            I’d like to warm up to her — she’s Slovenian-American; I’m Slovenian-American (third-generation, father’s side).

            But so far, I’m having a hard time getting a handle on her. She gotta be wondering WTF she’s gotten herself into.

            • Heather Hastie
              Posted February 9, 2017 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

              You might be related! You could offer her a safe haven.

              Given what the election exposed about her husband, I don’t know how she can even bear to be in the same room as him without vomiting. Imagine being a woman married to pu$$ygrabb€r.

              I think the look is hiding real turmoil, and perhaps even fear.

              • Ken Kukec
                Posted February 9, 2017 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

                I can’t imagine that the Access Hollywood hot-mic tape, recorded when they were still essentially newlyweds and she was home pregnant with their child, went over well on the home front.

  17. Mark Cagnetta
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    This morning on Fox & Friends, Kellyanne Conway told the sudience to go out and buy Ivanka’s clothes.

  18. jrhs
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Republicans, President Trump wants you to go buy Ivanka’s luxury products. Valentine is coming. A diamond bracket is on sale for 40% off the regular price ($10,000). Surely you can shell out $500 a month for President Trump. It is just what you or your girlfriend wants. What a bargain! Hurry before the deals are gone.

  19. Posted February 9, 2017 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Along with all the other legal suits against Trump for various businesses or business-related practices (and the necessity for him to close failing businesses or fraudulent ones,) I read yesterday that there’s a suit against him for Trump Tower in Toronto. It was badly constructed (large hunks of detritus falling into the street) on a very small lot (on such hard soil that they couldn’t stabilize the building properly) and with the building positioned so that the main entrance was not on Bay St (the Toronto equivalent of Wall St in New York, the main reason for building on that street.) Korean investors thought the “Trump” name meant mega-buck returns on their investments, but it didn’t happen. Not as many people used the hotel or rented or bought units in the building as was predicted. The $500 million dollar building is now on sale for $300 million, if it can be sold with all the suits outstanding. (Oh by the way: The contractors who constructed the building were Russian.)

    Although Trump has numerous failed businesses, bankruptcies and legal suits pending, it is thought that he’ll make beaucoup bucks off the federal government for renting them space in Trump Tower, New York or Mar a Lago in Florida (and, maybe even Scotland) so they can protect him when he’s out of the Whitehouse (oh! Also for use of Trump’s plane.)(Also for protection of Trump’s wife and son who won’t be living with him.) (Are we protecting all his other kids too?!) Trump seems to have found a federal cash cow. Good thing the Repugs are so insistent on getting rid of certain government agencies to save money (so we can pay Trump!)
    If Obamacare, Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid go away, the money is going to Trump, not the elderly and poor.

  20. Posted February 9, 2017 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    I hate to keep coming across as a Trump supporter, which I’m not, but I think it’s extremely naive to assume that Nordstrom’s decision was anything other than a political one. Spicer may indeed be a sycophant, but in this instance his comments seem to me both justified and accurate.

    • Mark R.
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

      I don’t think it’s directly political as Spicer accuses; he is not justified or accurate. No company would stop selling goods if said goods were selling well. What does Ivanka’s product line target: professional women, educated women, independent women, successful women. This is the exact demographic that voted overwhelmingly for Hillary. This demographic loathes Trump and anything to do with him. These women don’t want to wear his “name”…who could blame them? That’s most likely why the line isn’t moving and since it’s not moving, Nordstrom did what any successful business would do- stop wasting money on merchandise that doesn’t sell.

      • gravelinspector-Aidan
        Posted February 9, 2017 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

        This demographic loathes Trump and anything to do with him. These women don’t want to wear his “name”…who could blame them?

        How well does the “Hitler” brand of yarmulkah sell these decades?

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  22. veroxitatis
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Only partly on topic, in so far as it relates to Trump but not specifically to Nordstromgate, I’m afraid. However, having had a rather busy day it was after dinner before I had an opportunity to read today’s Times (London). A news item mentioned that Trump told a meeting of police chiefs in Washington that he had listened in amazement as three appeal court judges in San Francisco questioned a justice department lawyeron why controversial immigration restrictions ordered by the White House on January 27 should be reinstated. Trump went on to say – “I don’t want to call a court biased , but courts seems to be so political and it would be great for our justice system if they would be able to do what’s right”.

    This is how judges test the merits of arguments advance. The better ones test almost to destruction. This is how it works. there is nothing political about it. Do fellow posters think that Trump is really that ignorant or is he signalling to his base? I may say I find it extremely difficult to believe that someone in his position can have retained a depth of understanding which would embarrass a middle school student.

    • gravelinspector-Aidan
      Posted February 9, 2017 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

      Do fellow posters think that Trump is really that ignorant or is he signalling to his base?

      Rich kid, grew up surrounded by hirelings (private school, etc) and later by corporate sycophants. I can well believe that he is that ignorant.

      I may say I find it extremely difficult to believe that someone in his position can have retained a depth of understanding which would embarrass a middle school student.

      He got into his position by being born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Why would he need to know about things people are asked in exams.

  23. Veroxitatis
    Posted February 9, 2017 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Three cheers for the appeals court.Thumbs down for Smallhands.

  24. Zetopan
    Posted February 12, 2017 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    “I can well believe that he is that ignorant.”

    Notice how well that conforms to those previous eras where the kings were illiterate. Trump imagines himself to be a modern day king, but as usual he totally fails to see any irony in that. He is *way* too stupid to understand much of anything.

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