Jesus Christ declared the King of Poland (Mary is already Queen)

I am not making this up. According to Christian Today, and verified by my Polish friend Malgorzata, the Polish government just accepted Jesus Christ as the country’s king:

Jesus has been declared King of Poland in a ceremony attended by the country’s president Andrzej Duda.

The ceremony was held at the Church of Divine Mercy in Krakow on Saturday and the liturgy was repeated in churches across the country the following day.

According to the Conference of Polish Bishops, it was timed to coincide with the end of the Catholic Church’s Jubilee Year of Mercy and 1050th anniversary of Polish Christianity.

The ceremony included the prayer: “In our hearts, rule us, Christ! In our families, rule us, Christ! … In our schools and universities, rule us, Christ! … Through the Polish nation, rule us, Christ! … We pledge to defend your holy worship and preach Thy royal glory, Christ our King, we promise!”

It continued: “We entrust the Polish people and Polish leaders to you. Make them exercise their power fairly and in accordance with your laws. … rule us, Christ! Reign in our homeland and reign in every nation – for the greater glory of the Most Holy Trinity and the salvation of mankind.”

Good God! This of course came from a revelation experienced by a Polish nurse Rosalia Zelkova, who, early in the 20th century, heard voices that told her that Jesus demanded, as a condition for the salvation of Poland in the upcoming war, that he be recognized as the King of Poland. What an arrogant S.O.B. Jesus was!

Right-wing legislators in Poland tried this trick in 2006 but failed, opposed by the Church itself. Now that the Catholic Church has huge power in Poland with the new government’s assent, there was no problem with this declaration.

When I wrote Malgorzata asking if this could be true, she responded:

The story about Jesus becoming the King of Poland is absolutely true. Half of the Polish government was in attendance. This was the reason Andrzej wrote a huge article the other day about “Islam envy” of Polish clergy. The situation here is more absurd than it ever was since the fall of Communism, and we are quickly becoming a theocracy.
But wait! It gets better (or worse)! For a Queen of Poland has already been in power for a long time, and guess who it is? Malgorzata writes:
But do you know that we already have a Queen of Poland and it is none other than Mary, Jesus’s mother? She was taken as a Queen of Poland on April 1, 1656 by the then king, Jan Kazimierz. Three hundred years later, on August 26, 1956 , the Polish Church hierarchy, in the presence of about 1 million believers, repeated the pledge to her as Polish Queen. So now we have both a Queen and a King ruling together. Here is what Polish Wikipedia says about it (unfortunately, there’s no English version):
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Polish royalty

h/t: Ginger K.

88 Comments

  1. Dominic
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    I think we can allow early modern kings like Jan Kazimierz such action – after all there was a war with Sweden at the time. But really, 21st century???

    Perhaps he will abdicate?

    PS PCC[E] – you said “Good G*d!” When you ought to have invoked Ceiling Cat!😉

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:37 am | Permalink

      Perhaps he will abdicate.

      Someone should hook him up with an American divorcée.

  2. Ian Hof
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    Good grief!

    • Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:31 am | Permalink

      I think the correct expression is “Holy Shit” exclamation exclamation.

  3. John Crisp
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    What goes around comes around. My mother was born in Poland (well, actually Ukraine, though it was part of Poland then) in 1921. She came to the UK in 1947. Brought up by her mother as a devout Catholic (though her father came from “converted” Jewish stock, but that’s another story), she somehow lost her faith along with most of her family and half her friends in the course of the Second World War. She used to tell me how, as a child, she was taught in school that Poland was “the Christ of Nations”…

    • Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:14 am | Permalink

      Interesting. My grandmother was also born in Poland, in the part which was then Germany. Catholic, of course. We got out of that.

      • Posted November 24, 2016 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

        This can mean two things:

        (a) your grandmother was/is Polish, and was born while the Nazis occupied Poland.

        (b) your grandmother was/is German, but that territory fell to Poland after the war.
        🙂

    • Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:49 am | Permalink

      Now there is a true miracle!

      My grandmother was born just a few months after her parents fled Poland in the 1910s. My grandfather snuck in from Russia. The Catholicism on that side of my family still runs strong, as my mother and her kin seem to because more ensconced in religion by the day. Next year, along with my father, a Catholic Deacon, are going on a pilgrimage to European Holy Sites including Fatima, for the 100th anniversary of the famed miracle of the sun.

      I am visiting them for Thanksgiving, I wonder whether this “good news” about Poland will come up as a topic.

  4. Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    I thought the female Polish royalty had already been established.
    Looking at YOU, Hili. 😻

    • Blue
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:28 am | Permalink

      hehhehheh, Ms pghwelshgirl: gooood one !

      And truest !
      Blue

  5. W.Benson
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    My view is that mass delusion like this is no joking matter, no matter how much it may appear to be to those of us uninfected by religion.

    • Posted November 24, 2016 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

      Sorry if my attempt at levity was offensive or seemed inappropriate – the limits of online communication. If there was an emoji for dark, wry humor, I would have used it. My comment was meant as a grim aside addressing the absurdity of this.

      And without going into details, religious beliefs and the people who spout them have been, and continue to be, a tremendous source of sorrow and pain to me.

      Mostly, I was trying to compliment the reigning Polish Princess. :0)

      • Diane G.
        Posted November 24, 2016 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

        I think W. Benson’s comment was aimed at the original post, not your comment, welshgirl.

        WB, I agree, all it takes is some authority to declare that such-&-such is God’s will and it will be.

      • infiniteimprobabilit
        Posted November 24, 2016 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

        Don’t worry for a moment, welshgirl. I don’t think anybody here would have been in the slightest offended by your comment.

        Me, I try to make my comments on such idiocy as offensive and derogatory as possible. They richly deserve it.

        (I have a philosophical difference with W Benson. If we can’t make jokes about such incredible stupidity, what can we make jokes about?)

        cr

  6. Claudia Baker
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Would like to read that article by Andrzej.

    I’m with you PCC: “Good God”!

    The scariest part? “In our schools and universities…”. Fucks sake.

    • Malgorzata
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:42 am | Permalink

      Unfortunately, it’s only in Polish. It’s way too long for me to translate.

      • Claudia Baker
        Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:52 am | Permalink

        Okay, thanks Malgorzata.

    • Diane G.
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

      “The scariest part? “In our schools and universities…”.”

      That might signal that the group that wrote the declaration anticipates the greatest dissension will come from that sector. (We can hope.)

  7. Darren Garrison
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    And still not the dumbest election of the month!

    • Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:50 am | Permalink

      +1

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:59 am | Permalink

      Nobody gonna out-stupid us this year!

      U-S-A! U-S-A!

      • Posted November 24, 2016 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

        Please do not say such things! There is still more than a month to go, someone may take the challenge!

    • ploubere
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

      Of the year, of the decade, of the past two centuries.

    • Diane G.
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

      LOL!!

  8. prinzler
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    I get pessimistic about our long-term prospects when I hear things like this. I can’t wait until Homo sapiens evolves into something better.

    • Diane G.
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

      Yeah, when we see all the recent backsliding in the West it’s hard to have much confidence in the spread of Enlightenment values.

  9. Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    Talk about living up to negative stereotypes. :p

  10. Roger
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    I guess the more times you say “rule us, Christ” the more better something or other is, or something.

    • Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:57 am | Permalink

      Even when I was a devout churchgoer, these monotonous chants felt weird. Now, looking in from outside, I feel like an archaeologist wandering into some kind of tribal ritual completely foreign to modern life. Perhaps the mostrich bizarre part about the throngs in front of an alter who recite these prayers is the fact that the object of their worship is nowhere to be found.

      • Blue
        Posted November 24, 2016 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

        Oooo, this is so accurate: “Now, looking in from outside … … ”

        In fact, chrisbuckley80, the “completely foreign” – enveloping that washes over me when I have to consider whether or not to actually walk up and into, get myself inside a mosque, a church, a temple, even a sweat lodge (although I quite find this one rather calming after all), say, cuz of a wedding invitation or in order to attend someone’s memorial, almost amounts in me to an angering. Because of i) the supplicating to .nothing there. and ii) at such great expenditure of so frickin’ many folks’ efforts, time & $.

        For crikey’s sake, there now is science and it is y2016 ! To .still. BE like this ? And to .still. BE sucking up so much of Earth’s resources that could so easily be better spent in the service of humanity ? Why, this ‘t a k i n g’ is just … … immoral.

        Blue

        • Posted November 24, 2016 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

          I attended an ordination a few years ago. That really throws these feelings into overdrive. Dozens of grown men prostration themselves before an alter and reciting canned passages about a holy book is just an utterly strange sight to behold if you’re at all removed from the indoctrination surrounding the ritual.

          • Diane G.
            Posted November 25, 2016 at 1:40 am | Permalink

            I’ve seen pictures of such ordinations–grown men lying face down on the floor, in all their fancy raiments…

            My atheist daughter chose to go to a Catholic high school. One year one of her classmates drowned in Lake Michigan and the school held an outside gathering to mourn that attracted easily a hundred people or more, and at one point they were all instructed to stand and recite some large number of Hail Mary’s. It was so creepy. All these male and female voices chanting again and again this bizarre prayer to an imaginary woman. I felt like I was in some National Geographic special about an aboriginal tribe somewhere.

  11. Posted November 24, 2016 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Well, to be honest, this only partially true – there is no legal act declaring Jesus the “king of Poland”. It was a Church ceremony attended by many politicians (including president) but not affecting the political system (so, Poland has not become monarchy ;)). Still idiotic though.

  12. Randall Schenck
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    So I guess separation of church and state is not going well in Poland?

    Mary is queen, Jesus is King – does this not have a kind of creepy Oedipus Rex to it?

    • JonLynnHarvey
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 11:24 am | Permalink

      Opus Dei says that Mary is “the Daughter of God the Father, Mother of God the Son, Spouse of God the Holy Spirit.”

      Almost like that time-travel novel “The Man Who Folded Himself” in which a man goes transgender retaining fertility, travels back in time, marries her former self, and winds up also being his/her own son.

      Or the Willie Nelson song “I’m my own grandpa”. http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/willienelson/immyowngrandpa.html

      • Randall Schenck
        Posted November 24, 2016 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

        Kind of like the Redneck looking at the family tree that did not fork.

        • Mark Reaume
          Posted November 24, 2016 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

          The Family Cyclic Graph

  13. JonLynnHarvey
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    The Catholic church already has an official feast of “Jesus Christ, King of the Universe” instituted in 1925, celebrated the last Sunday of ordinary time (meaning between Nov. 20 and 26).

    A bit like Elizabeth II who is both Queen of the United Kingdom and also specifically of England (and Canada and Australia & New Zealand) except more cosmic (though pretty devoid of conveying any sense of what Einstein called ‘cosmic religious feeling’).

    And some might argue also like Elizabeth in that the real work of governing isn’t really done by her!!!🙂

    =-=-=

    Given that Catholics would almost always say “the church herself” I did a Google direct quote search and found that “the church herself” returned 97,800 results, while “the church itself” returns 480,000, and the first of the latter referring to Catholics is a set of Renaissance flashcards defining “Counter-Reformation” as “The movement by Catholics to reform the church itself”.

    “the Catholic church itself” returns 163,000 results, still higher than the number returned by using the feminine reflexive pronoun, but “the Catholic church herself” returns fewer: 119,000 results. Clearly the feminine reflexive pronoun is not widely used outside RCC circles (and not in Wikipedia.)

    =-=-=

    In 2010, a city in Poland built the world’s tallest Jesus (bigger than the one overlooking Rio de Janeiro) and unlike the one in RdJ it has a crown, and indeed the statue is entitled “Christ the King”.

    • infiniteimprobabilit
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

      That guy looks remarkably – Aryan. More like a frickin’ Crusader than some middle-Eastern tribesman.

      Quite definitely White (in all senses of the word).

      cr

      • Helen Hollis
        Posted November 25, 2016 at 12:21 am | Permalink

        He looks very stern, as if he is about to rebuke someone or something or give chastisement to something. He has facial hair that looks as if he just had perfectly threaded his brows. Did he have too much time on his hands with only three years to minister to the population before he was on the cross?

  14. DrBrydon
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    A Jew as King of Poland? As Sam Goldwyn said, “Only in America!”

  15. Mark Sturtevant
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    This might seem figurative, but actually it can be troublesome. Since the king and queen cannot speak for themselves, of course the elected and appointed officials who wanted this can say they are channeling the will of their sovereign as they legislate. Meaning: They can push their political agendas while saying it is what Jesus & Mary would want.

  16. Posted November 24, 2016 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    So, if we can believe this and the song I found very confusing as a child, Poland and Israel (*) share a monarch now.

    (“Born is the king of Israel …”)
    😉

  17. chris moffatt
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    The real problem is that it’s the bishops who will interpret the will of this ‘king’ and tell everybody what to do – just like they do now.

    In any case we all owe much more to King Jan Sobieski than to king yeshue bar yussef.

    • Scientifik
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

      True that, though even King Jan Sobieski after the historic Battle of Vienna, in which the Polish army saved Europe, said these words: “Venimus, Vidimus, Deus vicit” (“We came, We saw, God conquered”)

  18. Jenny Haniver
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    I am positively enchanted by this. I think it’s great. There is something about this sort of religious insanity which captivates me and exerts a profound effect on those cerebral regions that respond to and make something funny, and to my sense of the surreal (or in this case, the “surreligious”). It’s not just that I think this is immensely funny, ludicrous, ridiculous, rather, it’s sublimely so on all three counts, for me, and I live for the sublimely ridiculous. And at the risk of being horribly politically incorrect, pace Malgorzata, Andrzej, Hili, Cyrus, et al., for me, it’s a kind of Polish joke, a politically incorrect genre of joke, which existed at least in pre-PC America (don’t know about other places). As someone who’s an armchair investigator into the more outré aspects of folklore and popular culture, it’s a genre I find quite interesting, though my use of the term with respect to this event, I obviously expand beyond well beyond the strict meaning of telling a specific joke about the supposed foibles of Polish people.

    • Jenny Haniver
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

      Must add that RC nuttiness takes pride of place with me, so this was a two ‘fer.

      • infiniteimprobabilit
        Posted November 24, 2016 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

        My feelings too.

        (And who needs to invent Polish jokes when the Poles are so busy doing it themselves?)

        cr

        (I should add in my defence that, for reasons of political incorrectness, I treasure Polish jokes – along with Irish jokes, Aussie jokes, Pommie (Limey) jokes, Kiwi jokes, yadda yadda – I try to be an equal-opportunity offender)

  19. JJH
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Just reviewed the Polish constitution, didn’t see any reference to a monarch, temporal or celestial (although it did give special preference to treaties made with the Catholic church). So, I wonder now, if a “prophet” claimed that Jesus told him parliament should be dissolved and new elections held; Would that be binding?

  20. W.Benson
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    The only two officially dead people who currently serve as heads of state seem to be Jesus, now King of Poland, and the Eternal President of the Republic of North Korea Kim Il-sung.

    • infiniteimprobabilit
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

      Is Kim Il-Sung officially dead?

      Anyway, North Korea seems to have two practical advantages in the dead-ruler states – they still have the body, and there is reliable evidence that Kim Il-Sung actually existed.

      cr

      • infiniteimprobabilit
        Posted November 24, 2016 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

        .. dead-ruler staKes..

        sheesh

        cr

        • ratabago
          Posted November 24, 2016 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

          Let us go for one further permutation: Dead-Ruler Skates. It makes them easier to move around, drag them to important state functions, etc. A sort of “Weekend at Bernies'” for Dear Leaders.

          • infiniteimprobabilit
            Posted November 24, 2016 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

            I *like* it.
            🙂

            cr

      • merilee
        Posted November 24, 2016 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

        Anyone know the state of Lenin’s body. I saw it lying in state (decomposing state) in 1966…

        • infiniteimprobabilit
          Posted November 24, 2016 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

          Lying in state but never head of state.

          Different situation.

          cr

        • rickflick
          Posted November 24, 2016 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

          He’s have to be converted to a hologram at some point, if he hasn’t been already.

        • Steve Pollard
          Posted November 25, 2016 at 6:08 am | Permalink

          I saw it during an official visit to Moscow in about 2000. We had to take our hats off and file past the coffin without stopping, talking or (needless to say) photographing. I thought Lenin looked very well indeed: his skin had a healthy flush and his hair and beard were well groomed. Some irreverent sceptic suggested that he had been replaced by a waxwork replica. I can hardly believe the Russians would stoop to such deception.

  21. Posted November 24, 2016 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    ah, good ol’ White Jesus and White Mary.

    • Ken Phelps
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

      Even worse, it’s wimpy millennial Jesus, and his younger mother. The money changers in the temple would have kicked that guy’s ass.

      • Posted November 24, 2016 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

        hah!🙂 I can just see the scene, the money changers changing that nasty secular money for official temple money to buy your official temple blood sacrifices, and the big guys standing guard. and then this blonde fellow walks in….

  22. Merilee
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Sub

  23. Posted November 24, 2016 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Carpenter to King. It’s the American Dream.

    Who knew your election would have such far-flung ramifications – and so soon, too!

    Good luck to him. Poor bugger couldn’t presently get a job as an Uber driver here in the UK.

    • Helen Hollis
      Posted November 25, 2016 at 12:30 am | Permalink

      And why should he need a job at all, when his Father has an army of forces (even ones that do not like each other much) willingly gathering up as much money they can to influence laws they like?

      • Posted November 25, 2016 at 10:55 am | Permalink

        Because it’s good to have a job. It teaches one the value of money and provides focus, goals and a sense of achievement.

        Remember, Trump’s Dad was loaded, too but forced the young Donald to borrow a measly million buck off him and make his own way in a cruel and uncaring world.

        A mere six bankruptcies later and he’s the president of the United States. That’s the kind of stamina that one can only learn by starting at the bottom with next to nothing.

        Surely something that Jesus, King of Poland, would do well to emulate.

  24. alexandra Moffat
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Can the Pope stop, reverse this? Would he?
    Does that mean that all Polish people can now walk on water?
    Everything gets ridiculouser and ridiculouser. Hope the USA dosnt get ideas from Poland – there are people there who would love to follow.
    Silly people…..

    • Helen Hollis
      Posted November 25, 2016 at 12:38 am | Permalink

      Can the Pope stop, reverse this? Would he?
      That is a very complex question.
      What would the Pope be stopping really?
      If they are not breaking any rules of the Church, what basis would there be to stop anything, or reverse anything? What a secular society (so called) does, is their own business. If the Pope blesses this theatrical ruse, that’s up to him. The faithful catholic would not have to give a shit either way.
      Does that mean that all Polish people can now walk on water?
      Do you really think this thing will be something that offers absolution to all Polish people?
      You must not be or were Catholic to not realize how the guilt mechanism works in the Church to ask that one.

  25. rickflick
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    It seems humans do feel rather impotent under some circumstances and would prefer an absolute ruler to remove the burden of decision making. Democracy is not for the faint of heart.

    • Randall Schenck
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

      Let’s see what Hamilton thought of democracy.

      It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable, would be the most perfect government. Experience has proven that no position is more false than this.

      Real Liberty is neither found in despotism or the extreme of democracy but in a moderate govt.

      • rickflick
        Posted November 24, 2016 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

        Republic. Representation in congress but avoiding the chaos of endless referendums.

  26. Posted November 24, 2016 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    The symbolical act, as silly it seems, is an apparent symptom, as Malgorzata writes, of Poland “quickly becoming a theocracy”. That’s a disconcerting development and being a neighbour (I hope a good one), it’s odd that we notice little of what is going on there. Of course, it’s known that Poland is going right-authoritarian, but the religious dimension is underreported in Germany (or taken for granted).

  27. infiniteimprobabilit
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    “This of course came from a revelation experienced by a Polish nurse Rosalia Zelkova, who, early in the 20th century, heard voices that told her that Jesus demanded, as a condition for the salvation of Poland in the upcoming war, that he be recognized as the King of Poland.”

    Didn’t bloody work,did it?

    cr

    • rickflick
      Posted November 24, 2016 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

      Looks like the old bait and switch.

    • Helen Hollis
      Posted November 25, 2016 at 12:50 am | Permalink

      Hearing voices says it all. Virtuous if the voices tell you about how God wants things done. Oh, wait up. God or Satan? Did son of sam hear voices? Where did the voices come from?

  28. infiniteimprobabilit
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    That’ll screw up the royal succession good an’ proper, won’t it?

    They’ll need an immaculate conception to fix things, I should think.

    Ummm, if Jeebus is king and Mary is queen, does that mean he’dhave to shag his mother? The Ptolemies (Cleopatras) of course engaged in that sort of thing… but they were alive at the time (though not necessarily for very long).

    This could bring incestuous necrophilia to new heights.

    Gosh I foresee a flood of new bad-taste jokes coming along. Ones that, unlike Trump jokes, don’t carry an edge of apprehension. Thank you, Poland.

    cr

  29. Posted November 24, 2016 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    I am imagining a cricifiction scene with Jesus on the cross with a sign attached saying “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Poles.”

    • Posted November 24, 2016 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

      Jesus – the first God to qualify for a Darwin Award.

  30. keith cook +/-
    Posted November 24, 2016 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    JC King of Poland???

    …poleaxed by the Poles. Sad. Daft.

  31. Larry
    Posted November 25, 2016 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Do the leaders of Poland have nothing better to do with their time? Superstitious nutters.

  32. Helen Hollis
    Posted November 25, 2016 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    How about this novel idea? Instead of calling the leaders of Poland Superstitious nutters, or sad or daft why not realize that your time is better spent winning over minds and hearts to help make a change there?

    • Larry
      Posted November 25, 2016 at 3:15 am | Permalink

      Helen, I don’t live there. But I can still have an opinion about it, whether or not you want me to.

      My interests cover a wide range, as does this website.

      How about this novel idea? Instead of you offering a weak opinion on my comment, why don’t you realize your time is better spent winning over minds and hearts to help make a change?

      • infiniteimprobabilit
        Posted November 25, 2016 at 5:32 am | Permalink

        I’m with Larry on that one. Idiocy deserves to be derided, and I see no reason why anyone should be urged to refrain from pointing it out on the slightly specious grounds that they should be winning the assholes over instead. The latter is, of course, highly desirable for anyone who has the the time, which most of us do not.

        The only exception is where pointing it out might drive them to further extremes of assholery, and I can’t see that being likely in this case.

        cr

        • Diane G.
          Posted November 25, 2016 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

          “I see no reason why anyone should be urged to refrain from pointing it out on the slightly specious grounds that they should be winning the assholes over instead.”

          Absolutely. Exactly how I feel about the Dems berating themselves over not appealing to the poor white working class males who openly embraced an unprecedentedly racist, sexist, xenophobic campaign; one which is now appointing another cadre of assholes to the highest positions in government.

  33. Bob
    Posted November 25, 2016 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    It’s good to be the king. You get to shtup the queen.


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