Monday: Hili dialogue

It’s October 24, 2016, and appears to be National Food Day. In honor of that, please have some food today.

Tom Hayden died last night at age 76 from the aftereffects of a stroke. One of my youthful heroes, he was a noted anti-war and pro-civil rights activist, and one of the Chicago Seven tried in 1968 for protesting at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. Charged with conspiracy and incitement to riot in that highly publicized trial, Hayden and his co-defendants were later acquitted. Hayden spent the rest of his life as an activist, winding up as a California state senator. Those of a certain age will also remember he was married to Jane Fonda for a short while.

LOS ANGELES - APRIL 6: Former U.S. Senator Tom Hayden (D-CA) arrives to the funeral services for lawyer Johnnie L. Cochran, Jr. at the West Angeles Cathedral on April 6, 2005 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images)

LOS ANGELES – APRIL 6: Former California State Senator Tom Hayden (D) arrives to the funeral services for lawyer Johnnie L. Cochran, Jr. at the West Angeles Cathedral on April 6, 2005 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images)

On this day in 1260, the Chartres Cathedral was dedicated. It has some of the most beautiful stained glass windows in the world, so if you go to Paris, don’t miss a day trip to Chartres. Also on this day in 1945, the United Nations was founded with great hopes; it’s now devolved into a largely useless organization. And on this day in 1947, Walt Disney testified before the House Un-American Activities Committee, giving them the names of his employees that he suspected of being Communists. Feel differently about Uncle Walt now?

Notables born on this day include Antonie van Leeuwenhoek (1632; see Matthew’s tribute a bit later today). Those who died on this day include Vidkun Quisling (1945; executed for treason), G. E. Moore (1958), Jackie Robinson (1972), Gene Roddenberry (1991), Rosa Parks (2009), and Maureen O’Hara (2015). Meanwhile in Dobrzyn, Hili makes her first comment on the American Presidential election. When I asked what Hili meant, Malgorzata explained:

It’s a choice between pest and cholera. What can someone, who – fortunately – doesn’t have to make this choice say about it? That the great America went crazy and wants to be governed either by a dangerous buffoon or by a dishonest, greedy politician who refuses to take responsibility for her actions?

And so Ms. Hili:

A: You’ve never said anything about the choice between Trump and Clinton…
Hili: I better say nothing.
p1050009-1In Polish:
Ja: Nigdy nie mówiłaś co sądzisz o wyborze między Trumpem i Clinton…
Hili: I lepiej, żebym nadal nic nie mówiła.

Reader Keira McKenzie from Oz sends a lovely portrait of her black cat, Plushie with a caption:

She watches, she knows, she remembers.


And Grania sent a cat gif:



  1. somer
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Plushie the Ice Cube cat: “Dont push me as Im close to the edge”

  2. GBJames
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    I wonder if Tom Hayden had a chance to vote early this cycle.

  3. Christopher
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    After watching American Experience on PBS a while back, I was certainly left with a foul taste in my mouth in regards to Disney. I had no idea he was such a bastard. It certainly fits with my opinion of the Disney corporation today, but it tainted my early childhood memories of the movies and cartoons I loved so much.

    • somer
      Posted October 24, 2016 at 7:46 am | Permalink

      Yes I remember seeing a documententary back on the 90s about Disney. he was a bigoted right wing so and so.

      • Doug
        Posted October 24, 2016 at 10:03 am | Permalink

        To put Disney’s actions in context, many Americans at the time thought that Communists were infiltrating America, and that it was essential to root them out. It was the equivalent of “If you see something, say something.”

        My father was a WWII vet; he told me that in the late 1940s, an FBI agent came to a Legion meeting and gave them a big spiel about how the Russkies had agents in every city and small town in America [that’s a lot of agents]. “They’re teaching in colleges, they’re on school boards, they’re in Hollywood, they’re even in the churches.” The Legionnaires were told to go to everyone in town and ask them to sign a Loyalty Oath, and to report anyone who refused to the FBI. And they did. Why they thought that enemy agents wouldn’t sign a Loyalty Oath is unclear.

        This was in a small town in Connecticut. The FBI must have been doing this all over.

        OTOH, I have heard that Disney was using this as an excuse to get back at union organizers, so, yeah, he was a prick.

        • somer
          Posted October 24, 2016 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

          Thanks for the background – and certainly it was a period of communist infiltration. Personally I always found Disney not to my taste so Im biased. I can’t remember much about the 1990s documentary, though I understand Disney came from quite a left wing, even socialist background, but moved to being fairly hard right, partly because he believed communists organised a strike against him that hurt him personally and financially. He didn’t impose his conservative views on his staff but he expected them not to show left views in his presence or at work; he donated a lot to Republican politicians and let his sympathies be publicly known. He designed and used political contacts to secure vast theme parks and passage of legislation that would render them completely self contained and autonomous from government, staffed with almost exclusively contract only employees.

          Since his death the company has a fairly poor reputation for treatment of employees.

        • somer
          Posted October 24, 2016 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

          Yes pretty off as an employer to actually give names of suspected communist employees to the House committee on Un American Activities. He may have not liked the strike organisers, but that was low

    • Posted October 24, 2016 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

      At that time, communists were leading to disaster many European countries, including Poland that had become casus belli for WWII (not to mention my own country). The Soviet Union was stealing the nuclear secrets of the USA. Communism or, to be precise, people who wanted communism, was rising as world threat No. 1 after the defeat of Nazism. So it is difficult to me to throw stones at people who reported suspected communists in the USA. Especially as I am now demanding from moderate Muslims to report suspected extremists from their ranks.

      • Doug
        Posted October 24, 2016 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

        Mayamarkov–I actually agree with you. I am no fan of the Communists.

        I do think the notion that Russia had agents on every small-town school board was unlikely. But who knows? I suppose they could be anywhere [which is not to say “everywhere”], just as radical Muslims can be anywhere.

  4. Ken Kukec
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    Contrary to the photo caption, Tom Hayden never served as a US senator, although I think he made a run against John Tunney one time for the Democratic nomination in the Seventies.

    Who’s still left kickin’ now from the Chicago 7 (or 8, counting Bobby Seale)?

    • GBJames
      Posted October 24, 2016 at 7:56 am | Permalink

      He served in the California legislature as a State Senator.

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted October 24, 2016 at 9:06 am | Permalink

        Yeah, I know; that’s why the photo caption identifying him as a “U.S. Senator” is wrong.

        • Posted October 24, 2016 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

          Yes, and I described Hayden accurately in the text. I’ve fixed the figure caption, thanks.

    • Diane G.
      Posted October 24, 2016 at 11:33 am | Permalink

      OK, I Googled it for you. 😉

      Rennie Davis, John Froines, and Lee Weiner. (The latter of whom I could never have recalled had my life depended on it.)

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted October 24, 2016 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

        The Dude was part of the Seattle Seven, and helped Hayden draft the Port Huron statement (the original Port Huron statement, not the compromised second draft).

        • Diane G.
          Posted October 24, 2016 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

          Just to be clear…this isn’t a tie-in to Weiner, right?

          And thanks bigly–loved the clip and got sucked into the following two as well. Thank goodness the subject changed or I might have been Dude-binging all day…

  5. rickflick
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    I love Grania’s cat gif (or is it a d*g gif?).

    On the wall behind the two actors it says…

    Hold that thought, if you can.

    • somer
      Posted October 24, 2016 at 8:09 am | Permalink

      sadistic little bugger of a kitten,though

    • Taz
      Posted October 24, 2016 at 8:09 am | Permalink

      Scenes of vicious attacks like that should come with a trigger warning!

  6. Taskin
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    A glorious photo of Plushie!

  7. Nancy
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    He was married to Jane Fonda for 17 years. That’s not a “short while” IMO. I should know; my first marriage was 13 years and felt like an eternity.

  8. David Duncan
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Is Hili stacking on the pounds?

  9. JonLynnHarvey
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Tom Hayden was married to Jane Fonda for 17 years. With due respect, I would not really call that “a short while” (especially by Hollywood standards 🙂 ).

  10. Torbjörn Larsson
    Posted October 24, 2016 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Is this Exaggeration Day!?

    “… the United Nations was founded with great hopes; it’s now devolved into a largely useless organization.”

    From the beginning of the Wikipedia article:

    “The United Nations (UN) is an intergovernmental organization to promote international co-operation. A replacement for the ineffective League of Nations, the organization was established on 24 October 1945 after World War II in order to prevent another such conflict. At its founding, the UN had 51 member states; there are now 193.”

    Useless? I need a good article to be convinced it hasn’t some use, especially since it is to be compared with LoN.

    “… dishonest …”

    AFAIK the metrics is that Clinton lies as frequently as most people (which is good for a politician, I guess). The rest is hard to find data on and compare, so it seems to be nebulous accusations.

    • Posted October 24, 2016 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

      In the 1920s, the League of Nations stopped an aggression of Greece against my Bulgaria, although the latter had a poor reputation after fighting at the wrong side in WWI. Now, the UN didn’t stop the aggression of Saddam Hussein against Kuwait, didn’t stop the aggressions of Milosevic… actually, if it has ever stopped any aggression, I have missed the news. But it is very active in bashing Israel.
      (To be fair, its associated organizations do a lot of good work in helping refugees and organizing worldwide immunization campaigns.)

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