NBC news touts the Ark Park

Well, the NBC News that I watch nightly finished up its broadcast with a segment on the Ark Encounter (Kentucky’s “Ark Park”), with lots of shots of the Ark and an interview with Ken Ham. It was touted as the largest man-made timber-frame structure on Earth and was nothing less than an advertisement for this execrable creationist venture.

The worst part of the whole broadcast is that never did they bother to mention that it’s only a MYTH, a story that science tells us not only did not happen (there was no worldwide flood), but could not happen given the limited space of such a vessel and the number of animals it would have to accommodate, including their food.

It was a kiss on the naked rump of faith, as if NBC had advertised a Loch Ness Monster Park without mentioning that there’s no good evidence for Nessie.

Such is the reluctance of the American media to question faith.  Shame on you, NBC News!

Here’s their tweet with some of the sell job:

And here’s an idea: if you use Twi**er, make your thoughts known using the addresses @NBCNightlyNews @NBCNews @kevtibs 

That gets it to the right place, including Kevin Tibbles, tonight’s presenter


  1. Richard Jones
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    I just caught that. I noticed a lot of bolted on iron plates holding the thing together. Noah sure had some forge!

    Ham was sickening.

  2. Sastra
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    If the American media were to report on a Loch Ness Monster Park there wouldn’t be a single word regarding it being a myth, either, I bet. The mainstream culture is in love with the entire idea of faith. It’s seen as humbling and endearing.

    It’s also framed as a personal ‘choice.’

    • Diana MacPherson
      Posted July 1, 2016 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

      Or they’d think that the Nessie myth goes without saying but not so much with Christian myths.

      • Heather Hastie
        Posted July 1, 2016 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

        Here’s my reply: https://twitter.com/HeatherHastie/status/749067168982011905

        • Diana MacPherson
          Posted July 1, 2016 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

          Love it! Retweeted!

          • Heather Hastie
            Posted July 1, 2016 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

            I saw! Thanks. 🙂 I’ve got quite a collection of flood myth pics. I was tempted to troll the reporter with them, but then I realized I wouldn’t be able to criticize other people for trolling ever again so I didn’t do it.

            I’ll just have to do a post some time on the Ark Park and add them all to that!

            • Diana MacPherson
              Posted July 1, 2016 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

              Haha. I’ve stopped short of trolling for the same reasons. Darn empathy.

        • David Evans
          Posted July 2, 2016 at 2:57 am | Permalink

          The math in that link is terrible.

          1 You don’t get area by multiplying length, width and height. You get volume.

          2 0.0065 square meters is not 6.5 square millimeters. It’s 6,500 square millimeters.

          • Torbjörn Larsson
            Posted July 2, 2016 at 7:14 am | Permalink

            Assuming 8 million animal species, and sex, I get 160 mm^2 to roam on. [ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110823180459.htm ]

            But it is a dud estimate since most would be nematodes, and they and their food would fit (barely). We need a size distribution, and it would be too much effort.

            The underlying problem is that it is known myth, taken from Gilgamesh.

        • juan martinez juan
          Posted July 2, 2016 at 9:38 am | Permalink

          Check your maths. 0.0065 sq m do not equal 6.5 sq mm. The true figure would be 65 sq cm (slightly bigger than a square with a 8 cm side). That’s should be small enough to drive the point on the absurdity of the myth.

          • Heather Hastie
            Posted July 2, 2016 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

            Not my maths – it’s just a pic that goes around Twitter from time to time.

    • sensorrhea
      Posted July 2, 2016 at 9:33 am | Permalink

      That’s true. One of the saddest things about Peter Jennings career was that one of his last projects was a pseudo-gullible hour-long special about UFOs. Nothing but a ratings grab.

    • gravelinspector-Aidan
      Posted July 2, 2016 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

      Nessie has a theme park, therefore it must be true.

  3. Howard Neufeld
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    I was watching too. Agree with you 100%.

  4. keith cook + / -
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    A magnificent tribute to folly, Ken Ham does himself proud and humanity a major fail.
    All that cash and energy could have gone to saving and research of biodiversity.

  5. Robin
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Not a single person going there will question the fact that hundreds of people were needed to build it, technology made it possible to build something that large… and the myth is that one really old man did it on his own….

    I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale….. Oy!

  6. Jon Butler
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    I dropped NBC an email on this. Doubt I’ll have a response…. Here’s an email addy if you want: contact.nbcnews@nbcuni.com

    • ploubere
      Posted July 1, 2016 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

      Thanks for the link, I sent them this:

      “I was dismayed to see such positive coverage of this ridiculous project. Real reporting would have delved into the tax subsidies for a religious endeavor that also discriminates based on religion for employment. Also, every reputable zoo director in the world has condemned the idea of keeping animals in such a structure.

      “But instead of serious news, you have produced a fluff piece, a PR advert for a delusional project. I’m saddened to see a once reputable news organization sink to this level.”

      • mudskipper
        Posted July 1, 2016 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

        My understanding no live animals will be kept in the ark. Just stuffed. Which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous, even if it’s more humane.

        • Geoff Toscano
          Posted July 2, 2016 at 5:52 am | Permalink

          I did hear one of Ham’s cronies once say, in reply to a question on how they managed to get huge dinosaurs on the ark, times two of course, that they took babies. Silly me for not thinking of that!

  7. Roger
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    Maybe they don’t realize that Ham is completely serious. Maybe they were thinking to themselves, “Haha nobody could possibly be this stupid.”

  8. rickflick
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    I’d love to see this thing pushed off into the deep blue sea off the Kentucky coast. I’d enjoy the scene as the thing did a “Titanic” followed by lots of bubbles and floating debris, including the Hamster.

  9. Posted July 1, 2016 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    There’s probably a reader here more familiar with shipbuilding than I am, but any information I can find on boats of that period [3500 BCE] were very likely round not rectangular and nowhere near the sophistication of say the Chinese superships circa 12-1400 AD.
    I think Ham should be required to duplicate the load in weight and then put out to sea in his “historically accurate” ship. I’m confident it would founder where it launched.

    • Randall Schenck
      Posted July 1, 2016 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

      Yes, there was a documentary I saw sometime back on that very thing. The modern builders attempted to reproduce and then launch one. First time it almost sunk.

      No thought on where they would store all the food or even worse how would they clean up after all of them. No mention of where they stored all the plants or seeds to grow. I guess that stuff just survives floods.

      No mention in this NBC news piece about all the taxpayer’s money being used to build this piece of crap either. I understood it will cost $40 bucks a person to visit this thing.

      • Posted July 2, 2016 at 5:24 am | Permalink

        The tax money *really* pisses me off. I read an article where they could get up 18 million in subsidies from Kentucky. And of course they continue with their discriminatory hiring practices.

    • Posted July 1, 2016 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

      This is probably something close to what you’re looking for.

      • Posted July 2, 2016 at 5:16 am | Permalink

        Yes! Thank you. Very much along the lines I was thinking.

  10. Posted July 1, 2016 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    WGN did a better job, methinks, but they still aired a story about this crackpottery creation theory. Ugh.

  11. Marilyn
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    I was watching until they announced that ‘story’ was coming next…no way was I going to watch that B.S.! The saddest part for me was that Nightly News with Lester Holt is the only news broadcast I still watch, but I’m done with it now.

  12. Mark Sturtevant
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Well, we have to admit that the Ham-ster is close to finishing his big, stupid, inadequate, lame, law-breaking travesty of one mans’ vision of a mythical past. The guy will stop at nothing to git ‘er dun. There is nothing to admire in this, mind you, but it must be admitted he is extraordinarily determined to forge his delusions into reality.

  13. Pliny the in Between
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Of course the other part of the myth is http://pictoraltheology.blogspot.com/2016/06/number-1.html

  14. Pliny the in Between
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    There are several pictures pictures of the thing under construction covered in hundreds of sheets of Dupont Tyvek house wrap. As a one writer (can’t recall who) pointed out – sheets of Tyvek have the Dupont logo with the words “the miracle of science” underneath.

    • Dave
      Posted July 1, 2016 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

      I believe the bible story specifically calls for Tyvek in ark construction.

      • Pliny the in Between
        Posted July 1, 2016 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

        And layeth thou the sheets with the tiny side up. Layeth thou the sheets with the longish side in line with the keel and thou must sacrifice a goat. Thou shalt fasten the sheets to the timbers with tiny brass tacks as knowest thou not of iron and certainly not of aluminum.

        • Diana MacPherson
          Posted July 1, 2016 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

          Now I’m imagining biblical instructions on bed making:

          Thou must changeth the sheets once per week. But changeth the sheets not on the sabbath for that day is the Lord’s and the Lord finds your sheet changing tedious.

          I’d go on but like the Lord, I too find bed making tedious, so much so that I can’t stand to write about it, even for a good joke.

    • Posted July 1, 2016 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

      Here you go. Laurie Goodstein.

  15. philfinn7
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Luckily our Australian customs and quarantine laws are very strict. It’s not permissible to re-import ham after export. So, USA, you’re stuck with him. What a complete drongo, as we say back in Oz. There are other expressions but I’ll refrain.

    • Dave
      Posted July 2, 2016 at 11:13 am | Permalink

      Well, he really is where he belongs, here in one of the world’s last bastions of religious fruitcakery and nutjobery.

  16. bluemaas
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Muck was seen and heard within this household as well.

    Tweet out now … … despite my taking of no psychotropic meds whatsoever, as I was once and quite recently advised here forthwith so to do:

    “Noah’s Ark news?
    O NBC: how stupid, how silly, how utterly WRONG
    to sell public such destructive thinking !
    @NBCNightlyNews @NBCNews @kevtibs”

    Feel free, if you so wish to, to appropriate and use for yourselves’ tweets.


  17. Posted July 1, 2016 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Ken Ham’s Fantasyland. Your tax dollars at work.

  18. Dave
    Posted July 1, 2016 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    Now if you really wanted an “authentic” exhibit, you’d hire a single 500-year-old guy to build an ark by hand with a hammer and a adze. Only takes 100 years, apparently.

    • Posted July 2, 2016 at 5:09 am | Permalink

      To be fair, Noah DID have some octogenarian sons to help him, allegedly! 🙂

  19. jerry beere
    Posted July 2, 2016 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    A replica? What is it a replica of, exactly?

    • Posted July 2, 2016 at 4:33 am | Permalink

      I knew I shouldn’t have said “replica”!

      • Henry Fitzgerald
        Posted July 2, 2016 at 5:39 am | Permalink

        That was my first thought, but I think the term might be borderline okay. I can imagine someone saying “I have a replica of the Starship Enterprise” and there’s a sense in which it makes sense. It depends on with what degree of anal specificity the Bible provides the design specs.

      • Scote
        Posted July 2, 2016 at 9:33 am | Permalink

        “Artist’s rendition”?

  20. JohnnieCanuck
    Posted July 2, 2016 at 4:23 am | Permalink

    I’d like to point out that NBC’s tweet calls it “a Noah’s Ark replica”.

    Replica? How can you construct a replica of something imaginary? That’s not completely fair and balanced, now is it? The Tyvek remark, on the other hand, might be a nod to reality.

    For those not blinded by Ham’s peculiar vision, this is more of a concrete proof that the Ark could never have been anything more than a myth.

    • Diana MacPherson
      Posted July 2, 2016 at 9:38 am | Permalink

      Ha – nice “concrete proof” because he probably used concrete in it too! 😀

      • rickflick
        Posted July 2, 2016 at 10:07 am | Permalink

        You’re probably thinking of the lifeboats.

  21. Posted July 2, 2016 at 5:07 am | Permalink

    Does anyone know when it’s going to go through its sea-worthiness tests and start to travel round the world?

    Or does it only work on dry land?

    Is it even technically possible to make a ‘replica’ of something that never existed?

    • Scote
      Posted July 2, 2016 at 9:38 am | Permalink

      Yeah, the Bible does rather leave out what all the disembarking humans and animals were supposed to eat on a planet Divinely purged of all living things, the survivors having already consumed the **one year’s** worth of food the would have had to have packed with them on the ark…

  22. Posted July 2, 2016 at 5:26 am | Permalink

    I wonder if it’s possible to create a ‘Post-Ark Encounter’ theme park where a few herbivores, carnivores, insectivores, etc., together with a few humans, are turned out into a sterile enclosure devoid of all living substance and left to survive as best they can. It might even make a good reality TV show!

  23. Geoff Toscano
    Posted July 2, 2016 at 5:55 am | Permalink

    I’d just like to point out that we do have something like this in the UK.

    It’s called Harry Potter World

  24. trou
    Posted July 2, 2016 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    If Noah could have stuffed all those animals into the ark with each allotted .00172 square feet to get comfy,the damn thing wouldn’t have been able to float. All the air would have been replaced with animal flesh. They wouldn’t have drowned either because they would have already been dead either by suffocation or being crushed.
    What’s worse to me than this silly myth is that Ham uses it as a morality tale to vilify atheists and those unbelievers he thinks are responsible for moral decline and the world’s many problems. Hate talk like that can be dangerous. Besides, NBC wouldn’t allow other demographics to be maligned the way Ham does to those who are non-religious and accept evolution.

  25. Max
    Posted July 2, 2016 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    How can you build a “replica” of something for which there was no original?

    If they’re going to bill it as a replica, they should have to prove there was an original.

  26. Posted July 2, 2016 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    I recently went to the Wizarding World of Harry Potter in Universal Studios. No mention there that it isn’t really either, though I’d bet they did a better job creating Harry Potter’s world than Hamilton did creating the Ark park.

  27. Kevin
    Posted July 2, 2016 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    America has a rather disappointing feature of managing spotlights. And people, like Trump, or things, like the Ark, just walk into those spotlights.

    The public eats a lot of things, it is both hopeful and plausible, the Arc will eat itself. I will not be surprised that in my lifetime, the Ark becomes a haven for crazies, closes its doors, and has to have FBI surround it to have the people leave/escape. Hopefully no one will burn it down…what a waste of wood.

  28. rom
    Posted July 2, 2016 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    I wonder how many work hours went into building the ark, and bearing in mind the modern tools that were used and the pre-engineered materials available, how many work hours were available to Noah and his family?

    • Posted July 2, 2016 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

      I had exactly those thoughts. With modern technology, it took them this long to build a replica, nevermind collect every animal on Earth. One would think this inconsistency may dawn on them. Alas, they’ll say Noah had the help of the Lord….of course, if this is true why couldn’t God just plop down the Ark the way he did the Ten Commandments? God works in mysterious ways, so mysterious that they indeed never involve anything verifiable that humans can’t do on their own.

    • Dave
      Posted July 3, 2016 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

      About 100 years, according to The Babble.

  29. Matthew Jenkins
    Posted July 2, 2016 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    New Scientist magazine recently described Answers in Genesis as a ‘mythical re-enactment society’. As someone pointed out to me here, that’s not strictly true as you can’t re-enact something that never happened.

  30. Posted July 2, 2016 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    “It was a kiss on the naked rump of faith.” Oh that’s a phrase I shall borrow and use a hundred times at least.

  31. Thomas Lee
    Posted July 2, 2016 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    You watch NBC news?

  32. Jim greene
    Posted July 4, 2016 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    I always find it amusing when atheists get so upset that journalists don’t get in goose step alignment with their views.

    • Posted July 4, 2016 at 9:34 am | Permalink

      I always find it vastly amusing that people like you believe in a stupid fairy tale like the Ark.

  33. Posted July 4, 2016 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Could it be that NBC got advertising money?

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