Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ creationism

Today’s strip deals with creationist ignorance:

2014-10-2114I wonder where the complex Abrahamic God sprang from? Oh, I forgot—it’s not complex, but very simple! And it was there all along!

The strip, according to its author’s mass email, was inspired by this ridiculous video from Think Islam; the title is “Atheism explained in 45 seconds” (what they mean isn’t really atheism but naturalism, for some religious people are pure naturalists):

The J&M artist calls the video “a 45 second masterclass in smug ignorance!”

31 Comments

  1. Christopher
    Posted October 22, 2014 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    Guys, you are being too harsh on that video.

    Whilst it might NOT (and indeed, does not), explain our earthly origins, it does a fine job of explaining where God comes from…….

    ….or at least it would do if NO pieces of Lego were placed in to the plastic bag…..

    ….and the emerging helicopter would also need to have magic powers as well (the helicopter in the film is clearly bound by the laws of physics).

    • Posted October 22, 2014 at 2:54 am | Permalink

      Something else that gods cannot do but science & rationalism can –
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29686709

      • Torbjörn Larsson, OM
        Posted October 22, 2014 at 5:42 am | Permalink

        I put a mark in my calender yesterday, since science made a lame person walk. Celebration time!

      • Posted October 22, 2014 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

        Very encouraging! Well done doctors and UCL.

      • Matt
        Posted October 22, 2014 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

        I can already see the apologetics response…..”Yes, but the Doctors were guided by god.”

    • Phoebe
      Posted October 22, 2014 at 5:02 am | Permalink

      Where does God come from? Bizarrely for the assorted creationists and Intelligent Design proponents God is the only thing that is the product of an intelligent designer. The best explanation of natural phenomena a group of intelligent apes could come up with in the absence of all scientific knowledge and understanding. We made him/her/it up and it was quite a clever starting hypothesis thousands of years ago with nothing else to go on. Especially given the propensity to see patterns and cause and effect that’s so useful to surviving.

      The problem is we’re just as intelligent now but we have thousands of years of cumulative knowledge disproving our original clever starting point. I fully understand the reasons for inventing Gods/Goddesses originally, what I struggle with is still having them now when we have knowledge.

      • Christopher
        Posted October 22, 2014 at 5:34 am | Permalink

        As the scientific method has pushed the supernatural hypothesis in to the gaps, the best response that theists have been able to come up with* has been to invent bigger, better and fewer gods (we’re now down to one uber-god in much of the West – although he is sometimes expressed as ‘three’).

        *that and cutting the heads off of unbelievers.

      • Sastra
        Posted October 22, 2014 at 6:12 am | Permalink

        Knowledge has a hard struggle against the intuitions of “common sense.” This is of course only made more difficult when there are many Wise People insisting that instinctual assumptions were placed in us by God.

  2. boku
    Posted October 22, 2014 at 3:48 am | Permalink

    Why doesn’t anyone ever do that with a few eggs, some flour, and milk?

    • gravelinspector-Aidan
      Posted October 22, 2014 at 4:44 am | Permalink

      As John Wheeler (physicist) allegedly said, “That’s not even wrong.”
      The presenter (producer/ director, scriptwriter and probably coffee maker too) of that video is leaving out the crucial point of (Darwinian) evolution which is the step of (natural) selection amongst multiple similar-but-not-identical copies of a predecessor.
      But we know that ; this is simply intellectually dishonest. Which is what one expects from the religious, of any and all stripes.

      • gravelinspector-Aidan
        Posted October 22, 2014 at 4:46 am | Permalink

        Oops, wrong “reply” link. Intended it to be a free-standing comment. But an omelette does sound good for lunch – mushrooms, I think.

        • boku
          Posted October 22, 2014 at 7:41 am | Permalink

          I was thinking pancakes 🙂

          • gravelinspector-Aidan
            Posted October 23, 2014 at 4:57 am | Permalink

            Mushroom omelette is one of my routine breakfasts – and that feels like goods timing.

    • Posted October 22, 2014 at 7:20 am | Permalink

      I read somewhere — it might have been from Dennett — that you can unscramble an egg. One merely grinds up some eggs, and feed them to a chicken.
      Living things are a kind of ‘skyhook’, capable of lifting lowly matter up to a higher level of organization.

      • eric
        Posted October 22, 2014 at 7:56 am | Permalink

        Not just living things, nonliving processes do it too. Heat and evaporation constantly “unscrambles” water from salt, which is why rain, rivers, and lakes are fresh rather than saline.

      • Gregory Kusnick
        Posted October 22, 2014 at 11:51 am | Permalink

        In Dennett’s terminology, natural processes that lift matter to higher levels of organization are “cranes”, with their feet firmly grounded in physics. “Skyhooks” are free-floating miracles with no such naturalistic grounding.

  3. Posted October 22, 2014 at 3:53 am | Permalink

    Sir, are you God?

    • Bob J.
      Posted October 22, 2014 at 7:16 am | Permalink

      Maybe next time he could pull a rabbit out of his hat.

      • Posted October 22, 2014 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

        That’s old hat these days. Just once, I’d like to see somebody pull an hat out of a rabbit.

        …on second thought, maybe not….

        b&

  4. Saul Sorrell-Till
    Posted October 22, 2014 at 5:39 am | Permalink

    It’s indeed very smug and of course created by someone who’s never read any of the arguments against their own position, ever. Fred Hoyle has a lot to answer for with that Boeing in a junkyard analogy. I have a sneaking admiration for the elegance of the video and the gorgeousness of the music though.
    They should try selling their religion on the lushness of its soundtrack rather than the inane kindergarten apologetics they usually use.

    • Christopher
      Posted October 22, 2014 at 8:54 am | Permalink

      I can agree in part about the appeal of the video’s simplicity but it’s one thing pulling out a (designed), Lego helicopter from the bag, but quite another to pull out a fully functioning Universe!

      Furthermore, pulling a god out of ‘no bag’ with ‘no one to pull’ and no universe in which the whole scenario can unfold, is infinitely more complex!

      😉

  5. Posted October 22, 2014 at 5:41 am | Permalink

    Just pick up a copy of the NY Times. God appears to be a drunk moron with apraxia lighting poorly manufactured fireworks in the dark.

  6. Garnetstar
    Posted October 22, 2014 at 5:56 am | Permalink

    I do that with chemicals every day. Throw some together, stir slightly, and voila, they arrange themselves into large, complex, perfectly organized structures. Sometimes in under a microsecond.

    So, I want to see a video of this guy doing that. Preferably with ethylene and a polymerization catalyst, since many billions of polyethylene chains that are millions of molecules long form instantly, and with explosive force. That would make for some good visuals!

  7. Posted October 22, 2014 at 6:31 am | Permalink

    Kirk Cameron has nothing on this guy.

  8. eric
    Posted October 22, 2014 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    I don’t see why it should take 45 seconds. How long does it take to say “atheists do not believe in any God because they observe no evidence for any God”?

  9. Kevin
    Posted October 22, 2014 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Mr. Magic Lego Man is God. Well, the God of ignorance and wanton mystery.

    After walking away from this video, what answers do such people rely on beyond, “It’s so complex, it must be genuinely divine?”

    The only inspiration from this video is that if people seriously want to take existence as ‘too complicate to take the time to understand’ then they need to walk away from science. Their religion prohibits scientific knowledge and it is hypocritical when they benefit from science since it is the very thing their religion requires them loathe.

  10. steve oberski
    Posted October 22, 2014 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    This is just begging for some parody videos in response.

    How about, let’s toss a shredded portrait into the bag, shake, and out comes an likeness of Muhammad.

  11. Posted October 22, 2014 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    It is actually the Bible & Co-ran that think life on Earth occurred instantly as if by magic. So this video of the magic self assembly helicopter illustrates how the authors of the Co-ran considered that life originated, basically one week there was a jumbled mass of stuff then hey presto the next week it was as it is today. What happened in the video was a camera trick, they stopped the film & took time to assemble.

    Even if you look at the history of the evolution of technology there has been a gradual build up in the information required to manufacture plastics and to mould them into shapes. Also of course there was a long history of inventions in human flight leading up to the helicopter.
    There is no other serious contender to evolution by natural selection.
    Some Muslims even seem blinded to the evolution of their own Co-ran from previous mythic stories that derive from previous religions.

    A parody on the Abrahamic creation story:
    Adam and Eveolution
    ReWrit Genesis 2v20 “From all the animals no suitable helper was found for Adam”

    And it came to pass that one day Adam wondered if it would be possible to have a cross breed between a human and other primates and so he did have romantic relations with some of the other species of great apes. Well after a few years when God happened to be walking by
    God said to Adam, ” What on Earth are you doing?”.
    Adam replied, ” I thought it would be an interesting experiment to see if I could have a human cross ape child, but I have been trying for years now and so far there has been no offspring”
    God said unto Adam, ” Speciation old chap, speciation. You see there has been too much evolutionary divergence between the species of which you are an example and the species you have been having monkey business with. So although you share a distant ancestor with these females it will not be possible for you to have a cross breed child by them. Your sperm will not be able to fertilize the egg within them. An ancestor of yours might have managed it 4 million years ago but not now. Basically give it up. In any case don’t you realize that there are females of your own species, why don’t you take one of them as your wife?”
    Adam said, ” Well they don’t look much different from these apes”
    God replied, ” Here, i think you need to wear this pair of glasses”
    Adam tried them on and said, “Wow, I was blind but now I see”

  12. Rhaeyga
    Posted October 22, 2014 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    They shouldbe shown this


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