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		<title>Comment on Coyne vs Palin. A knockout in round 1. by nick bobick</title>
		<link>http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/coyne-vs-palin-a-knockout-in-round-1/#comment-14917</link>
		<dc:creator>nick bobick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, if you followed the link what you actually smell is burning satire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, if you followed the link what you actually smell is burning satire.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Caturday mustelid by Sili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some cats, though, will still chocolate and white bread if given a chance.

I once had to wrest our pet ferret from the jaws of a marten (that one looked more squarish as I recall).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some cats, though, will still chocolate and white bread if given a chance.</p>
<p>I once had to wrest our pet ferret from the jaws of a marten (that one looked more squarish as I recall).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Coyne vs Palin. A knockout in round 1. by Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come &quot;the leader&quot; has the same link address as the quote?

I smell a crackpot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come &#8220;the leader&#8221; has the same link address as the quote?</p>
<p>I smell a crackpot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Coyne vs Palin. A knockout in round 1. by Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops: point in case of thwarting terms, Johnson on &quot;falsification&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops: point in case of thwarting terms, Johnson on &#8220;falsification&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Coyne vs Palin. A knockout in round 1. by Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
It absolutely aids Ray Comfort to move your dialog from “science” to isms.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes... But again, Matthew [it&#039;s confusing to refer to him as &quot;Jerry&quot;, speaking of terms :-o] is using a correct scientific term, albeit I do have problems with it. This is on the order of using &quot;theory&quot;, which also helps creationists. 

Changing terms will not help, because the creationists will, and have, adopted new terminology and thwarted it as they see fit. We have to make a stand. (But again, this is not the place to make it.)

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defeat means defeating her philosophy
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When your strategy is doomed: philosophies can&#039;t be defeated (unless they happen to be constructed inconsistent), that is their modern purpose.

I would suggest a practical defeat, like marginalizing crackpots (again). Ways to do that can be based on that their beliefs (philosophies) are ludicrous, because they go up against facts, because science works while philosophy doesn&#039;t (outside its own terms of navel gazing), and so on and so forth.

Otherwise we have wasted not only the Enlightenment but also society.</description>
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It absolutely aids Ray Comfort to move your dialog from “science” to isms.
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<p>Yes&#8230; But again, Matthew [it's confusing to refer to him as "Jerry", speaking of terms <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':-o' class='wp-smiley' /> ] is using a correct scientific term, albeit I do have problems with it. This is on the order of using &#8220;theory&#8221;, which also helps creationists. </p>
<p>Changing terms will not help, because the creationists will, and have, adopted new terminology and thwarted it as they see fit. We have to make a stand. (But again, this is not the place to make it.)</p>
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defeat means defeating her philosophy
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<p>When your strategy is doomed: philosophies can&#8217;t be defeated (unless they happen to be constructed inconsistent), that is their modern purpose.</p>
<p>I would suggest a practical defeat, like marginalizing crackpots (again). Ways to do that can be based on that their beliefs (philosophies) are ludicrous, because they go up against facts, because science works while philosophy doesn&#8217;t (outside its own terms of navel gazing), and so on and so forth.</p>
<p>Otherwise we have wasted not only the Enlightenment but also society.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Coyne vs Palin. A knockout in round 1. by Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
		<link>http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/coyne-vs-palin-a-knockout-in-round-1/#comment-14911</link>
		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh! &quot;isn&#039;t filtering&quot; - isn&#039;t filtering in the sense of natural selection.

You know, I might have saved us some trouble if I had made a better distinction between &quot;selection&quot; in statistical selection and natural selection in the first place...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh! &#8220;isn&#8217;t filtering&#8221; &#8211; isn&#8217;t filtering in the sense of natural selection.</p>
<p>You know, I might have saved us some trouble if I had made a better distinction between &#8220;selection&#8221; in statistical selection and natural selection in the first place&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Coyne vs Palin. A knockout in round 1. by Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
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		<description>To stave off further misunderstandings, let me also note that a uniform selection on alleles is not a natural selection process at all. 

I think - even if a uniform selection is a statistical process, and also happens in nature. It is, I believe, defined away as it isn&#039;t filtering. It is instead defined as variation in &quot;population size&quot;. But I may be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To stave off further misunderstandings, let me also note that a uniform selection on alleles is not a natural selection process at all. </p>
<p>I think &#8211; even if a uniform selection is a statistical process, and also happens in nature. It is, I believe, defined away as it isn&#8217;t filtering. It is instead defined as variation in &#8220;population size&#8221;. But I may be wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Coyne vs Palin. A knockout in round 1. by Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
WRONG.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, no, RIGHT. 

This was the general context of &quot;random&quot;, before I started to pare down the meanings. &quot;Random&quot; is also in contexts &quot;Having no definite aim or purpose; not sent or guided in a particular direction; made, done, occurring, etc., without method or conscious choice; haphazard.&quot; [Wikipedia.] &quot;Haphazard&quot; is the exact opposite of selective.

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You can certainly select things “at random” …
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure, I use stochastic processes all the time. Which is why I (tried to) describe just that.</description>
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WRONG.
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<p>Um, no, RIGHT. </p>
<p>This was the general context of &#8220;random&#8221;, before I started to pare down the meanings. &#8220;Random&#8221; is also in contexts &#8220;Having no definite aim or purpose; not sent or guided in a particular direction; made, done, occurring, etc., without method or conscious choice; haphazard.&#8221; [Wikipedia.] &#8220;Haphazard&#8221; is the exact opposite of selective.</p>
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You can certainly select things “at random” …
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<p>Sure, I use stochastic processes all the time. Which is why I (tried to) describe just that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Coyne vs Palin. A knockout in round 1. by newenglandbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>newenglandbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fundagelicals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fundagelicals</p>
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		<title>Comment on Coyne vs Palin. A knockout in round 1. by newenglandbob</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is wishful thinking Oroboros. I would love for that to be true but I have seen no evidence of the fudagelicals dying out. There are reports of many of them in high schools and what tries to pass as colleges and universities of the far right.

Palin is willfully ignorant and proudly arrogant of that fact and is anti-intellectual. Read the books by Susan Jacoby to understand this phenomenon, particularly &quot;The Age of American Unreason&quot;. Their legion are many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is wishful thinking Oroboros. I would love for that to be true but I have seen no evidence of the fudagelicals dying out. There are reports of many of them in high schools and what tries to pass as colleges and universities of the far right.</p>
<p>Palin is willfully ignorant and proudly arrogant of that fact and is anti-intellectual. Read the books by Susan Jacoby to understand this phenomenon, particularly &#8220;The Age of American Unreason&#8221;. Their legion are many.</p>
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