Ham/Nye debate archived

Reader Verotchka informs me that, if you missed the live debate between Ken Ham and Bill Nye last week, it’s been archived here in high-def, so you can watch in full screen and even download it. (You have to identify yourself as a human by typing in the code they give you, but that’s no problem.)

On the other hand, if you missed the debate originally you probably had a good reason, and won’t want to watch it now. And I must admit that the thought of Ham’s face filling my 30-inch screen makes my stomach quail. Still, for the record. . .

17 Comments

  1. ladyatheist
    Posted February 10, 2014 at 5:52 am | Permalink

    I need to find it in low-def! My interwebs at home are too slow

    • Michael Fisher
      Posted February 10, 2014 at 10:18 am | Permalink

      WATCH HERE but set the quality to lowest possible by clicking the gearwheel [bottom right of video] & selecting 240p. The bandwidth for that is only 11% of the 720p HD version.

      • ladyatheist
        Posted February 10, 2014 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

        Thank you!

  2. Colin Wright
    Posted February 10, 2014 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    I’m with you, Dr. Coyne. When the moderator announced that Ham would now have 30 minutes to give their case I let out a big sigh, knowing that I was about to hear 30 minutes of complete nonsense, and that I would never get this time back. I have to admit, I skipped some of Ham’s talk. I couldn’t handle it!

    • gravelinspector-Aidan
      Posted February 10, 2014 at 9:12 am | Permalink

      knowing that I was about to hear 30 minutes of complete nonsense, and that I would never get this time back.

      Multitask! Don’t you have ironing to do? Boy Scouts to pick out of horses hooves? Income tax returns to file? Some unpleasant and thoroughly procrastinated task which you can perform with one braincell (OK, a half a brain cell) monitoring the Ham-ster to see if he’s come up with something novel. In a stupid sort of way.

  3. Mattapult
    Posted February 10, 2014 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    I wonder if the Creation Museum will claim copyright infringement and try to get the archives removed. It will probably depend how good the DVD sales are, and how desperate they are for money.

    I’m guessing most of the sales are going to people who think Ham trounced Nye. That’s a fairly small audience. I also wonder how many pre-sales want their money back.

    • Posted February 10, 2014 at 8:47 am | Permalink

      I bet a bunch of Alex Jones’ conspiracy knuckleheads provide fodder for the DVD sales. Amazing to me to come across this bone-headed entry in their Infowars Site, which has garnered more than 3700 comments in 3 days – almost all of it brain-damaged drivel.

      • Posted February 11, 2014 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

        Who would want to wade through all that drivel… a masochist?

        • Posted February 11, 2014 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

          Yes, a masochist. Luckily, I only took a small sample.

  4. Posted February 10, 2014 at 7:08 am | Permalink

    I cannot see why Ken Ham’s lectures, and all those Bible-Belt letters to professor Ceiling Cat should cause such disgust among the posters on this site. It seems to me that religion will always be with us, and for that reason we should all endorse Freedom Of Religion, but perhaps because many American atheists have had religion in their recent pasts the comical assertions of True Believers rattles so many North Americans.

    For me, Ham and those religious letters are gold-dust. They provide for me enjoyable insights into the ways whereby the human brain is able to reorganise learning and observation to support crackpot cult beliefs. It is a glaring example of them failing to develop the ability to ‘Process Experiential Information’.

    The fundamental mistake of psychology is to believe that the human brain is a problem-solver. It is not. Except in the rare circumstances whereby an adolescent can find a way of ‘decoupling’ his observations upon the world from his emotional needs. And then we have a young scientist. It is my contention, as many of your know, that the brain is more usually dedicated to producing ‘Solution-Ideologies’, so to reconcile the false assumptions of their adolescence with the intrusions of contrary information from outside themselves; to lessen the pain of ‘cognitive dissonance’, if you will. And why do Social Scientists insist that the brain is a problem-solver, when the evidence is against it? Because they, themselves, work upon erecting ice-palaces of logical possibility upon a few erroneous assumptions concerning human belief and behaviour. And they pretend that it is science!

    The sheer joy of the human brain in full flow of theological creativity (towards reconciling nonsense with fact) can be seen in Hill-Billy letters such as the following, (from memory)

    “…Sintists are liers. They say that DNA is in the body. But NAD is assid. I kno assid. It berns the skinn. Therer carnt be assid inside the body….” Sined: Cletus Bunnypampers. Louisianna, Texas.

    • Posted February 10, 2014 at 8:07 am | Permalink

      I cannot see why Ken Ham’s lectures, and all those Bible-Belt letters to professor Ceiling Cat should cause such disgust among the posters on this site. It seems to me that religion will always be with us, and for that reason we should all endorse Freedom Of Religion, but perhaps because many American atheists have had religion in their recent pasts the comical assertions of True Believers rattles so many North Americans.

      Death, taxes, and diarrhea will always be with us as well. Don’t hold your breath in anticipation of disgust at those going away any time soon, either.

      b&

      • Posted February 10, 2014 at 9:11 am | Permalink

        I thought that Kent Hovind had found a way around the first two; by way of resurrection, and by not declaring income. As to avoiding the third; stay away from that taco stand at Encino, Ca.

    • gravelinspector-Aidan
      Posted February 10, 2014 at 9:40 am | Permalink

      It seems to me that religion will always be with us,

      Pessimist. No small number of us are working to realise the possibility that religion will, one day NOT be with us. Except possibly as a memory of a bad and distasteful joke. I’m sure that in the 1830s there were some people asserting that “slavery will always be with us”, but now it’s a source material for ha-ha-but-very-uncomfortable-for-the-honkeys standup routines and foreign films that Oscar voters (is that in the recent past, or the near future? I’ve not been wasting time on “entertainment” news) dare not vote against, if it gets nominated.
      Being realistic, many of us are working towards religion being a bad and distasteful joke in the futures of our children or our close junior relatives. But living in hope is not a prerogative of the God-deluded.

      but perhaps because many American atheists have had religion in their recent pasts

      Just because you’re an American, and JAC is an American, doesn’t mean that everyone here is an American. I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if the regular posters weren’t even in majority American.

      • Posted February 10, 2014 at 10:26 am | Permalink

        I think astrology makes the better analogy. Not taken seriously by any but the particularly gullible, but a widespread source of momentary mindless entertainment. For a majority of the American population, we’re already most of the way there, I should think — just look at the percentages who regularly attend religious services.

        Cheers,

        b&

  5. Posted February 10, 2014 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    I’m glad it has been archived. Now it can be compared to the DVD that Ken releases down the track (to make sure it has not been edited).

  6. Stan
    Posted February 16, 2014 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Beware…The site at the provided link installed unwanted and tricky to delete spam, search engines, and other BS to my computer.

    • Posted February 16, 2014 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

      It has never done that to my computer – no spam nor search engine or any other undesirable thing. Did you try to download it without un-ticking the box next to “Download faster with 180upload download accelerator”?


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