Chopra keeps tweeting

I guess I’m in a bit of a contretemps with Dr. Chopra. He keeps tw**ting at me and they’re funny as hell. I guess he can’t help himself, which makes the following especially LOLzy:

Picture 1I love these. The first one implies that because I’m a determinist and an incompatibilist, he can predict my reactivity. (As if Chopra’s doesn’t have even greater and more predictable reactivity!) But determinists can also be determined to be nonreactive.  The third is an ad hom, and attempts to impugn my arguments because of my determinism.

The second is a deepity, which starts off okay and then degenerates into complete obscurantism. When Chopra stubs his toe on a rock, is he stubbing it on “consciousness within consciousness”? Can he will it not to hurt? And can that will then be read into his genes?

Then he proclaims his freedom from being reactive:
Picture 4Which is belied by this:

Picture 3Those fleas must be tenacious!

40 Comments

  1. NewEnglandBob
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Deeply Choked is just throwing a tantrum…LOLOL

  2. gbjames
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    sub

    • Diane G.
      Posted December 15, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

      //

  3. Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    The Monty Python image comes to mind: “It’s only a scratch!”

  4. Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Chopracopra.

    • Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

      If only we could void the quantum impaction.

    • Suri
      Posted December 15, 2013 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

      Chopracopra…hilarious!

  5. Diana MacPherson
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Deepak can’t help it. His proclivity to angry tweet was determined in the Big Bang. ;)

    Maybe you can sue him for libel like Tanzi is going to do to all of us. LOL

  6. Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Chopra is the flea.

    Take that and smoke it in your quantum dualistic universal consciousness all-in-one pipe!

    b&

    • pacopicopiedra
      Posted December 15, 2013 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

      Also, Tenacious Flea could be a great name for a grad school cover band.

      • Kevin
        Posted December 15, 2013 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

        Could Chopra Flea explain RHCP Flea? I think not.

      • HL_guy@hotmail.com
        Posted December 15, 2013 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

        Would they cover Jack Black’s band, or Chili Peppers?

  7. scottoest
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    The statements “the great man brushes off a flea”, and “do not be personally offended by your critics”, would seem to be at odds with each other.

    You don’t get to call yourself a “great man” while simultaneously comparing your critics to “fleas”… and then in the next breath act like you’re the bigger man here.

    Also, did I miss the part where Jerry personally proclaimed himself to be a “biological robot”?

    How sad it must be, to not understand that there’s a massive chasm between “robot”, and the kind of idiotic woo that man peddles. Apparently no atheist loves music, or art, or other people for that matter. Apparently the concept that our “choices” are already determined by who and what we are, means our livfes are meaningless — even though we are still living out those choices every day.

    I don’t understand the person who finds these ideas unconscionable, and akin to being a “robot”. Human beings are massively complex organisms.

  8. scottoest
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Here’s the thing, Deepak – either submit your theories on consciousness, epigenetics, and the rest to rigorous testing and peer-review — and accept the results — or go away.

    Stop declaring things by fiat, and show your work. You think these things are genuine scientific breakthroughs? Then prove it.

    You skip the actual hard, arduous parts of being a scientist (including having to admit you’re dead wrong from time to time), and go right to the part where you’re appearing on Larry King Live, or selling miracle salves and balms on the internet for low low prices.

    Instead of appealing to your supposed scientific peers to critique your work (which you evidently hate), you instead opt to appeal to the masses by burying them in your quantum babble that sounds good, but often doesn’t mean anything.

    You’re the modern avatar of the shifty man with a cart, going from frontier town to frontier town, telling the masses about the latest miracle oils that can cure their every problem.

    • pacopicopiedra
      Posted December 15, 2013 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

      Well said. It’s Deepak, with a capital D that rhymes with T and that spells trouble…right here in River City.

    • Posted December 16, 2013 at 5:05 am | Permalink

      A shifty man with a cart:

      After my religion period, I took up with a swindler: Allardyce Merriwhether. After Mrs. Pendrake, his honesty was downright refreshing.

  9. Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Chopra is an ayurvedic teleobot programmed with predictable perplexity.

  10. gheathen
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Reads to me as if Descartes is something of a recent revelation to Deepak judging by his likening you to a Cartesian non-human and by not seeming to understand that ‘non dual idealist’ is almost, but not quite, a tautology.

    I assume he doesn’t realise how petulant and childish he’s being?

  11. Posted December 15, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    It always amazes me that Deep-packed Coprolite continually attempts to outwit skeptics, instead of sticking to ladling out empty platitudes to his mindless flock.

  12. Posted December 15, 2013 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Chopra, the Christmas gift that keeps giving or was that William Lane Craig? :-)

    • Posted December 15, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

      Well, WLC is appropriately the gag Christmas gift & Chopra is April Fools.

  13. Joshua
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator – Wisdom of Chopra

    http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/‎

  14. Posted December 15, 2013 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    With future revenues from Chopra’s snake oil empire at stake, I suppose it’s not surprising that he would set aside his enlightened cosmic consciousness long enough to childishly hurl ad homs at less well-known critics. Selling bunk for money is big business, and he’s a master at it.

  15. Occam
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    “The great man brushes off a flea! Do not be personally offended by your critics”

    The image of cosmic consciousness pervading all dimensions of being (on log-log scales) emerges, serene and inescapable.

    Only a haiku can express it:

    On a bump on a log
    In a hole in the bottom of the sea
    The celestial bullfrog

  16. Taz
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    “matter is the symbolic representation of consciousness within consciousness”

    Come on, that was from the random quote generator, right?

  17. Posted December 15, 2013 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Oh, dear. Deepak might just be going postal or has mislaid his alter ego. Too much quantum jumping.

    (Can you believe there’s another Deepak Chopra?:
    http://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/aboutus/corporate/management/president/default.jsf )

    • Posted December 16, 2013 at 11:13 am | Permalink

      I’ve ran into a few Deepaks, and Chopra seems to be a very common name, so it seems pretty likely there are a few other ones as well …

  18. jeffery
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    I’m beginning to suspect that Deepak is going off the “deepend” (emotionally, that is: he went off the deep end intellectually a long time ago)- it’s hilarious to see someone who claims to supposedly have access to the wisdom of the ages indulging in temper tantrums and name-calling when he’s criticized or called to account in any way. His emotional response indicates that he probably really DOES believe the spew he puts out, which makes it sadder than if he was just a charlatan.

  19. pacopicopiedra
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    How is the third one an “ad hom?” He may be misrepresenting your belief, but he is clearly attacking what he perceives to be your belief, not you as a person. Would the line, “Deepak believes god is real” be an ad hom? I don’t think so. Anyway, deepak is an immature snake oil salesman, who can dish it out, but can’t take it – that’s an ad hom. And it’s true.

    • Taz
      Posted December 15, 2013 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

      You’re confusing ad hominem attack with insult. If Jerry said “Deepak believes god is real, therefore his science is invalid”, that would be an ad hom. The example you gave: “deepak is an immature snake oil salesman, who can dish it out, but can’t take it” isn’t an ad hom, it’s an insult.

      In the context of arguing about the validity of the paper he published, Deepak stated something about Jerry that is completely irrelevant to the argument as though it had some relevance. That’s what makes it an ad hom.

      • Diane G.
        Posted December 15, 2013 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

        There’s that famous Pharyngulite reframing again…

        • Taz
          Posted December 16, 2013 at 7:45 am | Permalink

          Sorry, I don’t get it.

  20. Nate
    Posted December 15, 2013 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Go home Dr. Chopra, you’re drunk!

    • Dale
      Posted December 15, 2013 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

      Interesting, I also recognize these as drunken tweets.

  21. Surangika Senanayake
    Posted December 16, 2013 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    “Bah! Humbug!” Merry Christmas Chopra.

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  23. Lisa
    Posted December 27, 2013 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Hey I would also like to try and say something about mr.Chopra. I find it hard to make myself clear, I feel somewhat embarraced but I am afraid he had caused some problems also at mines. Maybe there is an entrance at yours because for some time I tought i was the onlyone who had experienced such a things. Heavy punishments for things he does not like.

    I feel like having less freedom,less selfesteem because I avoided things out of being judged as a wrong person. I hope that for just once I may give some examples, hearing them is enough for me to feel more safe in my future. I am very sorry for this but understand that messages like this had a cause.

    I hope that mr.chopra will learn about the prefrontal cortex a bit. His actions somethimes maybe also have concequences. Somewhere I feel that it’s not always me or someone else to be blamed heavily my true appologies for this.

    (i used an old but working email adres)

  24. Lisa
    Posted December 27, 2013 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Maybe my post will not be placed, I respect that and leave the one that decides that free in it. Then at least its heared wich is something already.

    An easy example is that I had been related to mr.Trevor Jones (actor, ewok at starwars return of the jedi and Harry Potter 1)
    Maybe you like to see the fallowing made by mr.Chopra his son.

    “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my_-6I23KJQ&list=PL66D57EED284E9A0E&index=199″

    He fallows me,cuts copies things edits them the other way around to make me feel a bad person. What’s next? when I defend myself he has something to accuse me of? I’m jealouse of all that you are allowed of in privacy what I’m not . Coynes had placed a photo of a tattoo for example if I would do that I would hear it back like I am a criminal.

    Hopefully this place stays open, next time something happen I only have to make a short note where else am I safe? appologies for this (this don’t have to be placed, heard is enough)

  25. Lisa
    Posted December 27, 2013 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    sorry i had placed the wrong link out of nerves
    I feel embarraced but always exactly the day after I had done something he cuts copies and place it.

    “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my_-6I23KJQ”


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