Let the apologetics begin

You know the story: a gunman armed with semiautomatic weapons invaded an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, killing 20 children, 5 adults, and then himself.  The children were only 5 to 10 years old.  There is nothing more horrible than the pain of lives unfulfilled, the massacre of young innocents who never got a chance to let their lives unfold. For years the parents will be thinking “what if?” and trying to make sense of the senseless.

I don’t feel like fulminating right now against gun laws (see P.Z.’s short take on this: “I have no idea what could motivate a man to gun down 3rd graders, but I do know it’s past time to put rational gun control laws in place. Give it an hour, some idiot will propose arming all the 7 year olds instead.”), or gloating about how this supports the absence of God.  So let’s just see how the faithful deal with this horror.  It’s obviously because Americans have kicked God out of our schools!

Bryan Fischer, spokesman for the execrable American Family Association.  “God doesn’t want to go where he’s not wanted. He’s a gentleman.”

Some gentleman!

Mike Huckabee, failed politician and Baptist minister, makes the same excuse:

Huckabee notes that God will be there with hugs and consolation after the tragedy, but let it happen because of our godlessness. It’s obviously the same God who ordered Abraham to kill Isaac.

Zazzle is capitalizing on school shootings and religiosity with this tee-shirt:

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What has our country come to? First the loonies who kill, then the loonies who explain.


  1. infiniteimprobabilit
    Posted December 15, 2012 at 11:11 pm | Permalink

    I’m just waiting for the first apologist to say the gunman was an atheist, he must have been, since ‘no true Xtian’ would have done that…

    (Evidence? Well we all know Xtians prize the lives of children, especially unborn ones, while atheists want to kill them all…)

  2. Posted December 16, 2012 at 1:29 am | Permalink

    God is not in schools, because he is in Church watching priests rape kids. Oh, I forgot, he doesn’t exist.

  3. Dawn Oz
    Posted December 16, 2012 at 3:26 am | Permalink

    Found this on the web.

    “**** One guy tries to use a shoe bomb = Everyone at the airport takes their shoes off.

    **** 31 school shootings since Columbine = no changes.”

    • Marvol
      Posted December 16, 2012 at 4:27 am | Permalink

      Saw that one too. I also just saw this one (paraphrasing):

      “So allowing everyone access to free medical care is going to ruin the country… but allowing everyone access to semi-automatic assault rifles is going to save it?”

      • Dawn Oz
        Posted December 16, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

        Thanks – have collected it.

        As an Australian that has both free medical care and tight control on guns, the US does look like a strange creature from time to time.

        And the English police don’t carry guns, however the Aust police do.

        • geoffboulton
          Posted December 17, 2012 at 2:36 am | Permalink

          The exception in Britain being Northern Ireland, where the police routinely carry weapons. Of course, Northern Ireland is one of, if not the most religious areas of the UK with a long history of sectarian violence between Catholic and Protestant Christians. I guess it’s a case of my Jesus is better than your Jesus. It’s also routine to see armed police around key installations like airports, mainly thanks to the threat of terrorism from the ‘religion of peace’.

  4. Marvol
    Posted December 16, 2012 at 4:25 am | Permalink

    Not sure if it’s been observed before, but God is also absent in most schools – of any type, through university – in Europe. Come to think of it, in Europe God is also absent from most shopping malls, and cinemas, and…

    For some reason however these types of shootings are extremely uncommon in Europe.

    I’m curious to hear an explanation by these religious nutcases that manages to avoid the difference in gun laws.

    • Robert B. Estrada
      Posted December 16, 2012 at 9:58 am | Permalink

      You know the way some corntries and statesmake deals on taxes and financing to induce corporations to relocate facilities there? He got a tax break and a promotional deal to let him put his name on the currency and into a pledge to relocate here in return for leaving Europe. You all should be grateful to us for shouldering the burden of supporting this malifactor. However, we hear you are trying to undercut us in the bidding for allah.

      • Robert B. Estrada
        Posted December 16, 2012 at 10:00 am | Permalink

        Damned arthriris! “states make” “Robert”

  5. Owlglass
    Posted December 16, 2012 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    It rings true that a “gentleman” wouldn’t go somewhere uninvited. But of course a “gentleman” would do whatever it takes to prevent such an event from happening. Because “gentleman-ness” would cease in a crisis situation. Omitting that part is the whole trick. And, alas, it seems to work.

    Religiots often build their views around truisms, little pieces that can be easily swallowed. Then they make something that is like a pattern interrupt, a shortcut while someone still thinks “its true”, where they then can insert their nonsense.

    I guess I’m saying, do not underestimate their suggestion techniques and their mind hacks. You don’t need to go that far and bring in child abuse on religious grounds. In this case you open up a new can of worms, and it looks impiously.

  6. Posted December 16, 2012 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    I’m also disturbed by seemingly innocuous claims like those of a Newtown clergyman:

    Olivia Engel had a part in a nativity play at St. Rose of Lima Catholic Church. “She was supposed to be an angel in the play. Now she’s an angel up in heaven,” Monsignor Robert Weiss told a standing-room-only crowd at the church before the play on Saturday.

    I’ve written more about this type of (dangerous) false consolation here.

    • infiniteimprobabilit
      Posted December 17, 2012 at 2:09 am | Permalink

      Waaaaah! I’ll put this very gently because who knows, her parents might by accident read this thread one day but – doesn’t that sort of pat answer rather trivialise the lives lost?

  7. Mark D.
    Posted December 16, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Shirts like that are not new. I saw someone wearing one at a company gathering a few months ago.

  8. Jolo
    Posted December 16, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    I await the ones that will claim that Obama & the UN are behind this to take everyone’s guns away.

  9. Free Shooter
    Posted December 17, 2012 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants: Thomas Jefferson. Hang & shoot is what America is all about! Islam ate Besantium and reds ate czars because they didn’t execute anyone. Now Putin don’t like us giving assault rifles to Syrian freedom fighters. Better bloodshed than slavery! When Caesar put down Celtic liberty, all we got was fascist empire. Besides, their parents all voted for Obama.

  10. Posted December 17, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Huckabee claims it was because we have thrown God out of our schools! I thought God was never supposed to be in our schools, according to Madison and his First Amendment. Huckabee makes me grossly ill and some people want to run him for President!

  11. gmaduck
    Posted December 28, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    God was in the schools in 1927:  But . . . Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, three bombs were exploded at Bath School, killing 38 elementary (second- to sixth-grade) school children, as well as two teachers and four other adults (plus the bomber), and at least 58 others were injured. The bomber? The treasurer for the School Board, who drove up in his car and set off a bomb to kill and injure those who went to the school to help. That, not Newtown, not Columbine, not Virginia Tech, was the deadliest mass murder in a school in U.S. history.   (Reference This is True arcie@thisistrue.com)

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